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It may be much more damaging to them. As far as anybody knows, MH370 wasn't the fault of Malaysia Airlines. This is a whole another level. If they really appro

It may be much more damaging to them. As far as anybody knows, MH370 wasn't the fault of Malaysia Airlines. This is a whole another level. If they really approved a flight plan to fly over a war zone... I just can't... WTF.

ceejayoz 12y ago
Passenger planes fly over Iraq and Afghanistan regularly, without incident. There was not much reason to believe Ukraine or the rebels would be idiotic enough to target civilian passenger planes in this manner.
- omegant 12y ago
  During the hard times of the war no commercial planes flew over Irak or Afghanistan. There is no problem flying through zones with low capability insurgency, it's done all the time. But given the high tension nature ofthe Ukranian conflict it just doesn't make sense to fly over that areas. I recently flew to Moscow and our route was quite far to the north, but I would have changed it if necessary. It's a pilot's decission, but also a flight planer and Chief pilot hands to modify dangerous routes.
  - ceejayoz 12y ago
    Every point of the Iraq and Afghan wars have been "harder times" than the current Ukraine conflict.
- sn41 12y ago
  There are incidents: http://www.thehindu.com/news/international/south-asia/spicejet-flight-escapes-rocket-attack-in-kabul-airport/article6177698.ece http://www.thehindu.com/news/international/south-asia/spicej...
- alextgordon 12y ago
  News is reporting that US and UK airlines were strongly advised to avoid the area entirely, so that's just not true. As a point of irritation, I can't believe that of all the controversial opinions I've voiced on this website, "planes shouldn't fly over war zones" is being downvoted as the pinnacle of stupidity.
- cylinder 12y ago
  Except they just shot down a plane on Monday (not civilian, I know) and they've been bragging about having the Buk missiles since two weeks ago. Given these are just amateur morons equipped with very advanced missile systems, trusting that said amateurs would not target civilian planes or misidentify them seems like a huge blunder by all relevant aviation authorities.
saryant 12y ago
Lots of airlines were flying over separatist regions of Ukraine. SQ333 was just a few miles away from MH17 according to Flightradar24. I've flown over Afghanistan on my way to India, didn't bother me in the slightest.
cylinder 12y ago
Get on FlightAware and search routes between SE Asia and Europe. Many, if not most, go over Ukraine. Here's an example from a recent Singapore Airlines flight: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/SIA318/history/20140717/0445Z/WSSS/EGLL http://flightaware.com/live/flight/SIA318/history/20140717/0...

ceejayoz 12y ago

Passenger planes fly over Iraq and Afghanistan regularly, without incident. There was not much reason to believe Ukraine or the rebels would be idiotic enough to target civilian passenger planes in this manner.

omegant 12y ago
During the hard times of the war no commercial planes flew over Irak or Afghanistan. There is no problem flying through zones with low capability insurgency, it's done all the time. But given the high tension nature ofthe Ukranian conflict it just doesn't make sense to fly over that areas. I recently flew to Moscow and our route was quite far to the north, but I would have changed it if necessary. It's a pilot's decission, but also a flight planer and Chief pilot hands to modify dangerous routes.
- ceejayoz 12y ago
  Every point of the Iraq and Afghan wars have been "harder times" than the current Ukraine conflict.
sn41 12y ago
There are incidents: http://www.thehindu.com/news/international/south-asia/spicejet-flight-escapes-rocket-attack-in-kabul-airport/article6177698.ece http://www.thehindu.com/news/international/south-asia/spicej...
alextgordon 12y ago
News is reporting that US and UK airlines were strongly advised to avoid the area entirely, so that's just not true. As a point of irritation, I can't believe that of all the controversial opinions I've voiced on this website, "planes shouldn't fly over war zones" is being downvoted as the pinnacle of stupidity.
cylinder 12y ago
Except they just shot down a plane on Monday (not civilian, I know) and they've been bragging about having the Buk missiles since two weeks ago. Given these are just amateur morons equipped with very advanced missile systems, trusting that said amateurs would not target civilian planes or misidentify them seems like a huge blunder by all relevant aviation authorities.

saryant 12y ago

Lots of airlines were flying over separatist regions of Ukraine. SQ333 was just a few miles away from MH17 according to Flightradar24. I've flown over Afghanistan on my way to India, didn't bother me in the slightest.

cylinder 12y ago

Get on FlightAware and search routes between SE Asia and Europe. Many, if not most, go over Ukraine. Here's an example from a recent Singapore Airlines flight: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/SIA318/history/20140717/0445Z/WSSS/EGLL http://flightaware.com/live/flight/SIA318/history/20140717/0...