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Malaysia Airlines is a respected, professional airline. We have no idea what happened to either flight, and it's rather unfair to suggest Malaysia Airlines sho

Malaysia Airlines is a respected, professional airline. We have no idea what happened to either flight, and it's rather unfair to suggest Malaysia Airlines should be "shut down."

ddoolin 12y ago
We definitely have a pretty good idea what happened to this one. I don't think they should be shut down at all, just stating. Both /seem/ to have been mostly out of the control of the airline, aside from flying over the area, which MH isn't the only one doing.
korzun 12y ago
> Malaysia Airlines is a respected, professional airline. Okay. >On Friday, Malaysia Airlines CEO released some new information that could bolster the fire theory. Four days after denying that the plane had carried any hazardous materials, the CEO admitted that it was carrying a shipment of lithium-ion batteries in its cargo hold. Also please don't call a company professional if it's sending planes over war zone with 200+ people on board.
- pdabbadabba 12y ago
  > Also please don't call a company professional if it's sending planes over war zone with 200+ people on board. Does this change your mind? https://twitter.com/FlightCrisis/status/489806319717986305/photo/1 https://twitter.com/FlightCrisis/status/489806319717986305/p... https://twitter.com/flightradar24/status/489795658879348737/photo/1 https://twitter.com/flightradar24/status/489795658879348737/... https://twitter.com/jc_stubbs/status/489815565868216320 https://twitter.com/jc_stubbs/status/489815565868216320 Is Lufthansa a professional airline? Singpore Airlines? British Airways? They, along with virtually every airline, have all been routing flights through this part of Ukrainian airspace. Then again, perhaps your casual association of Malaysian airline officials with "ex-cab drivers" tells us all we need to know about your biases here.
catkin 12y ago
I think that's the point - nobody has any idea what happened to these two Malaysia Airlines flights and /that's/ why they should be shut down. EDIT: to clarify, I don't believe Malaysia Airlines should be shut down, just trying to clarify OPs comment.
- jlmorton 12y ago
  You believe that Malaysia Airlines should know within about 90 minutes whether one of their planes was shot down by a surface-to-air missile? Do you believe United Airlines would know such a thing? Air France did not know what happened to AF447 for several years until the wreckage was found. No airlines are in a position to investigate the cause of their crashes. These tasks fall to national agencies, such as the NTSB in the United States. Airlines neither manufacture their jets, nor have access to all the territory they fly over. They merely operate them. Unless you can point to some exceptional flaw in the management of Malaysia Airlines, it's absurd to suggest a well-respected airline should be shut down.
- freehunter 12y ago
  Well one of them happened literally minutes ago in a country at war currently. I think it's a little bold to expect them to immediately know why this place crashed.
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mikeash 12y ago
The reaction of "WTF, they shouldn't be flying over a war zone" only requires knowing that the plane was actually flying over a war zone, which is undisputed. It doesn't actually require this crash to be a result of that, it's merely a trigger for discussion and observation.

Malaysia Airlines is a respected, professional airline. We have no idea what happened to either flight, and it's rather unfair to suggest Malaysia Airlines should be "shut down."

ddoolin 12y ago

We definitely have a pretty good idea what happened to this one. I don't think they should be shut down at all, just stating. Both /seem/ to have been mostly out of the control of the airline, aside from flying over the area, which MH isn't the only one doing.

korzun 12y ago

> Malaysia Airlines is a respected, professional airline. Okay. >On Friday, Malaysia Airlines CEO released some new information that could bolster the fire theory. Four days after denying that the plane had carried any hazardous materials, the CEO admitted that it was carrying a shipment of lithium-ion batteries in its cargo hold. Also please don't call a company professional if it's sending planes over war zone with 200+ people on board.

pdabbadabba 12y ago
> Also please don't call a company professional if it's sending planes over war zone with 200+ people on board. Does this change your mind? https://twitter.com/FlightCrisis/status/489806319717986305/photo/1 https://twitter.com/FlightCrisis/status/489806319717986305/p... https://twitter.com/flightradar24/status/489795658879348737/photo/1 https://twitter.com/flightradar24/status/489795658879348737/... https://twitter.com/jc_stubbs/status/489815565868216320 https://twitter.com/jc_stubbs/status/489815565868216320 Is Lufthansa a professional airline? Singpore Airlines? British Airways? They, along with virtually every airline, have all been routing flights through this part of Ukrainian airspace. Then again, perhaps your casual association of Malaysian airline officials with "ex-cab drivers" tells us all we need to know about your biases here.

catkin 12y ago

I think that's the point - nobody has any idea what happened to these two Malaysia Airlines flights and /that's/ why they should be shut down. EDIT: to clarify, I don't believe Malaysia Airlines should be shut down, just trying to clarify OPs comment.

jlmorton 12y ago
You believe that Malaysia Airlines should know within about 90 minutes whether one of their planes was shot down by a surface-to-air missile? Do you believe United Airlines would know such a thing? Air France did not know what happened to AF447 for several years until the wreckage was found. No airlines are in a position to investigate the cause of their crashes. These tasks fall to national agencies, such as the NTSB in the United States. Airlines neither manufacture their jets, nor have access to all the territory they fly over. They merely operate them. Unless you can point to some exceptional flaw in the management of Malaysia Airlines, it's absurd to suggest a well-respected airline should be shut down.
freehunter 12y ago
Well one of them happened literally minutes ago in a country at war currently. I think it's a little bold to expect them to immediately know why this place crashed.
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mikeash 12y ago

The reaction of "WTF, they shouldn't be flying over a war zone" only requires knowing that the plane was actually flying over a war zone, which is undisputed. It doesn't actually require this crash to be a result of that, it's merely a trigger for discussion and observation.