Might be too simple when measured against those heavies, but check out Neptune's Pride 2: http://triton.ironhelmet.com http://triton.ironhelmet.com Slow, real-

Might be too simple when measured against those heavies, but check out Neptune's Pride 2: http://triton.ironhelmet.com http://triton.ironhelmet.com Slow, real-time 4x strategy game with no randomness and lots of fun.