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I thing what people bugs most about Glass is the fear to be taped all the time without consent and without even noticing it. Glass should be clearly signaling w

by cseelus 12y ago

I thing what people bugs most about Glass is the fear to be taped all the time without consent and without even noticing it. Glass should be clearly signaling when its filming/streaming via a hardwired LED or something, so that it is obvious when someone is filming and when not.

jerrickhoang 12y ago
when you're recording something the light is turned on and it's very noticeable.
- falcolas 12y ago
  The light seems to turns on for a number of reasons, which makes it an unreliable indicator. I watched a googled give a talk (on privacy) with his google glass on, the display lit up about 20 different times throughout his talk.
wyager 12y ago
You can, of course, always remove/unwire the LED if you're that desperate to discretely film people.
threeseed 12y ago
It's not even just the fear of being taped. But I imagine there would be a very strong correlation between those who wear Google Glass and those are technically astute. Which then leads you to think they would put that video on the internet somewhere. A lot of people don't wan't their drunken, embarrassing moments on the internet. It can affect relationships, career, etc.
hhsnopek 12y ago
Since the video cameras were made, people have known that they're being taped. You know that almost all buildings have security cameras, or that they're being taped by a tourist, weather they know it or not. The public is just not seeing the full picture, I could honestly, before Glass came out, recorded people with a camcorder or security camera. Also... If people are worried about others seeing how they act in public, then they need to fix how they're acting. A picture can mean a thousand words, but a video be chapters of your life. Choose how you want to have your book written, don't make bad decisions.
throwaway271828 12y ago
Anecdotally, the Glass team had a large internal battle about exactly this: half of the team wanted a hardwired LED indicating when it was recording, the other half of the team didn't. Supposedly the debate grew so heated that it fractured the team completely, and the half that lost mostly transferred onto other Google X projects, like Loon.
- MichaelGG 12y ago
  That sounds silly,unless they were going to do a test of the LED in order to activate the camera. Otherwise people determined to record could just break the light. It's not like there isn't a ton of spy cams available anyways.
  - r00fus 12y ago
    It's all about good intentions - assholes who want to record without permission will still exist, but the vast majority would not enable that hack, unless it was socially acceptable to do so. I think the LED lost out because then it would look all too much like the Borg.
    - MichaelGG 12y ago
      So what's gained by hardwiring an LED versus forcing it via software? The stuff I saw has a front light fairly clearly.
  - harlanlewis 12y ago
    Hardwired LEDs for cameras are common, precisely to prevent what you describe. Laptop cameras have their own processors, memory, and software, and if the light doesn't turn on then the camera won't turn on. This isn't just so others can know when your device is recording them, it's for you to know when your own device is recording you. Of course, it can still be hacked. http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/12/perv-utopia-light-on-macbook-webcams-can-be-bypassed/ http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/12/perv-utopia-light-on...
    - 12y ago

by cseelus 12y ago

jerrickhoang 12y ago

when you're recording something the light is turned on and it's very noticeable.

falcolas 12y ago
The light seems to turns on for a number of reasons, which makes it an unreliable indicator. I watched a googled give a talk (on privacy) with his google glass on, the display lit up about 20 different times throughout his talk.

wyager 12y ago

You can, of course, always remove/unwire the LED if you're that desperate to discretely film people.

threeseed 12y ago

It's not even just the fear of being taped. But I imagine there would be a very strong correlation between those who wear Google Glass and those are technically astute. Which then leads you to think they would put that video on the internet somewhere. A lot of people don't wan't their drunken, embarrassing moments on the internet. It can affect relationships, career, etc.

hhsnopek 12y ago

Since the video cameras were made, people have known that they're being taped. You know that almost all buildings have security cameras, or that they're being taped by a tourist, weather they know it or not. The public is just not seeing the full picture, I could honestly, before Glass came out, recorded people with a camcorder or security camera. Also... If people are worried about others seeing how they act in public, then they need to fix how they're acting. A picture can mean a thousand words, but a video be chapters of your life. Choose how you want to have your book written, don't make bad decisions.

throwaway271828 12y ago

Anecdotally, the Glass team had a large internal battle about exactly this: half of the team wanted a hardwired LED indicating when it was recording, the other half of the team didn't. Supposedly the debate grew so heated that it fractured the team completely, and the half that lost mostly transferred onto other Google X projects, like Loon.

MichaelGG 12y ago
That sounds silly,unless they were going to do a test of the LED in order to activate the camera. Otherwise people determined to record could just break the light. It's not like there isn't a ton of spy cams available anyways.
- r00fus 12y ago
  It's all about good intentions - assholes who want to record without permission will still exist, but the vast majority would not enable that hack, unless it was socially acceptable to do so. I think the LED lost out because then it would look all too much like the Borg.
  - MichaelGG 12y ago
    So what's gained by hardwiring an LED versus forcing it via software? The stuff I saw has a front light fairly clearly.
- harlanlewis 12y ago
  Hardwired LEDs for cameras are common, precisely to prevent what you describe. Laptop cameras have their own processors, memory, and software, and if the light doesn't turn on then the camera won't turn on. This isn't just so others can know when your device is recording them, it's for you to know when your own device is recording you. Of course, it can still be hacked. http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/12/perv-utopia-light-on-macbook-webcams-can-be-bypassed/ http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/12/perv-utopia-light-on...
  - 12y ago