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> do I need to build a doomsday bunker ASAP No. The cost of building and maintaining a bunker is higher than any chance of ever realizing a benefit. This is tr

> do I need to build a doomsday bunker ASAP No. The cost of building and maintaining a bunker is higher than any chance of ever realizing a benefit. This is true for any doomsday type scenario but if you live in a place with dangerously high winds or tornadoes a cellar might be a good place to weather a storm. > stockpiling supplies? Yes, you should always stockpile food and water in case of emergency [1] [1] http://emergency.cdc.gov/disasters/foodwater/prepare.asp http://emergency.cdc.gov/disasters/foodwater/prepare.asp

higherpurpose 12y ago
Do they still have that ridiculous law that makes you a potential terrorist for stockpiling more than 7 day's worth of food? http://www.activistpost.com/2011/12/10-ridiculous-things-that-make-you.html http://www.activistpost.com/2011/12/10-ridiculous-things-tha... Apparently something like that just happened last month: http://www.dcclothesline.com/2014/06/23/fbi-raids-home-dangerous-doomsday-prepper-agents-find-legally-owned-firearms-barrels-food/ http://www.dcclothesline.com/2014/06/23/fbi-raids-home-dange...
- Houshalter 12y ago
  As far as I can tell it's not a law, just something that could make you suspicious. Which is still ridiculous but not a crime.
- bellerocky 12y ago
  > Apparently something like that just happened last month. That guy was making booby traps and telling an undercover FBI agent that he is going to kill federal agents. http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/crime/fbi-arrests-doomsday-prepper-martin-winters/2184898 http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/crime/fbi-arrests-...
  - Houshalter 12y ago
    The informants claims turned out to be completely wrong. >But the claims and allegations may have been blown way out of proportion. After police obtained a warrant to search Winters’ home based on information obtained from a confidential informant they were probably surprised that not only did Winters have no explosive booby troops set up all over his property as had been claimed, he was also far short of having possession of the fifty high-powered rifles that police said he had been stockpiling. The police claimed he was crazy and plotting an elaborate confrontation with police, but there was no confrontation and the guy turned himself in peacefully. They are only charging him with building some unspecified "destructive device" without a permit, which he has plead not guilty.
- Retric 12y ago
  As I recall the Mormon religion states you should have a years supply of food on hand so it's not that suspicious. Presumably it also has some constitutional protection as it's not inherently dangerious or damaging to society. Edit: Might be 3months https://www.lds.org/topics/food-storage https://www.lds.org/topics/food-storage
- tptacek 12y ago
  There is no such ridiculous law, as the (somewhat unhinged) article itself makes clear. If you hold your nose and click through to the original source they link to, it's even further from your summary, referring to stockpiles of MREs, on a short list that also includes night vision goggles, rifle tripods, high-capacity magazines, and ammunition pouches. (The flyer seems pretty clearly geared towards "suspicious" militia types).
  - 3pt14159 12y ago
    Uh, MREs are a pretty normal part of a survival kit. I've owned them before. It is a pretty stupid law, even if it's scope is targeted towards militia types.
    - tptacek 12y ago
      What law? There is no such law.
- sokoloff 12y ago
  Who doesn't have more than 7 days food at some point in the grocery shopping cycle? When I was single, I could have lived for several weeks without going to the grocery and without going out to eat. Big boxes of ramen, pasta, frozen pizzas, etc. It's not like I go to the grocery and buy a couple days' worth of food at a time. Now, with kids, we tend to shop 2x a week, but even with that, even when we're about to go to the grocery, we could, if pressed, survive 7 days without external food. I'd imagine the same is true of most anyone with a kitchen, a pantry, and who is not in extreme financial distress.

higherpurpose 12y ago

Do they still have that ridiculous law that makes you a potential terrorist for stockpiling more than 7 day's worth of food? http://www.activistpost.com/2011/12/10-ridiculous-things-that-make-you.html http://www.activistpost.com/2011/12/10-ridiculous-things-tha... Apparently something like that just happened last month: http://www.dcclothesline.com/2014/06/23/fbi-raids-home-dangerous-doomsday-prepper-agents-find-legally-owned-firearms-barrels-food/ http://www.dcclothesline.com/2014/06/23/fbi-raids-home-dange...

Houshalter 12y ago
As far as I can tell it's not a law, just something that could make you suspicious. Which is still ridiculous but not a crime.
bellerocky 12y ago
> Apparently something like that just happened last month. That guy was making booby traps and telling an undercover FBI agent that he is going to kill federal agents. http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/crime/fbi-arrests-doomsday-prepper-martin-winters/2184898 http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/crime/fbi-arrests-...
- Houshalter 12y ago
  The informants claims turned out to be completely wrong. >But the claims and allegations may have been blown way out of proportion. After police obtained a warrant to search Winters’ home based on information obtained from a confidential informant they were probably surprised that not only did Winters have no explosive booby troops set up all over his property as had been claimed, he was also far short of having possession of the fifty high-powered rifles that police said he had been stockpiling. The police claimed he was crazy and plotting an elaborate confrontation with police, but there was no confrontation and the guy turned himself in peacefully. They are only charging him with building some unspecified "destructive device" without a permit, which he has plead not guilty.
Retric 12y ago
As I recall the Mormon religion states you should have a years supply of food on hand so it's not that suspicious. Presumably it also has some constitutional protection as it's not inherently dangerious or damaging to society. Edit: Might be 3months https://www.lds.org/topics/food-storage https://www.lds.org/topics/food-storage
tptacek 12y ago
There is no such ridiculous law, as the (somewhat unhinged) article itself makes clear. If you hold your nose and click through to the original source they link to, it's even further from your summary, referring to stockpiles of MREs, on a short list that also includes night vision goggles, rifle tripods, high-capacity magazines, and ammunition pouches. (The flyer seems pretty clearly geared towards "suspicious" militia types).
- 3pt14159 12y ago
  Uh, MREs are a pretty normal part of a survival kit. I've owned them before. It is a pretty stupid law, even if it's scope is targeted towards militia types.
  - tptacek 12y ago
    What law? There is no such law.
sokoloff 12y ago
Who doesn't have more than 7 days food at some point in the grocery shopping cycle? When I was single, I could have lived for several weeks without going to the grocery and without going out to eat. Big boxes of ramen, pasta, frozen pizzas, etc. It's not like I go to the grocery and buy a couple days' worth of food at a time. Now, with kids, we tend to shop 2x a week, but even with that, even when we're about to go to the grocery, we could, if pressed, survive 7 days without external food. I'd imagine the same is true of most anyone with a kitchen, a pantry, and who is not in extreme financial distress.