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Yonatan Zunger claims that Vic Gundotra approved the change.

by psbp 12y ago

aestetix 12y ago
I won't believe that unless Vic can prove it. edit: I'm being downvoted, but remember that Vic is the one who pushed the names policy in the first place.
- aiiane 12y ago
  It's still possible to change your mind. Also, some things to consider: (a) Yonatan is the tech lead for G+. This is something he would be an authority on. (b) I also work for Google, have no particular reason to be loyal to Vic [I've opposed the names policy from the start], and I'm also willing to vouch that Vic approved it. So if you still don't think that's enough to believe it, well, that's your prerogative, but I doubt anything is going to convince you in that case.
  - aestetix 12y ago
    Vic has been particularly offensive about this. The restaurant analogy comes to mind. He also stonewalled for a long time, was kind of a dick about it, and refused to budge when presented with evidence. If something magically made him change his mind, I would love to know what it was. That said, do you know what evidence made Vic push the names policy in the first place?
    - aiiane 12y ago
      I don't think anything "magically" changed it - more just it evolved over time. See the quote from Yonatan I posted elsewhere in this thread regarding the original motivations and successes or lack thereof. No idea on evidence question.
      - aestetix 12y ago
        Surely there were discussions which lead to the names policy, as well as more discussions that lead to the repeal of it? I have a hard time believing that a single person at Google (Vic) would be given so much free reign to make policy changes based on how it "felt" without having a shred of evidence. Unless I'm misunderstanding?
    - a3n 12y ago
      Total guess: Google wanted a world where Google could sell real, identifiable people to advertisers. Not enough real, identifiable people came to the restaurant. At this point I doubt a name free-for-all is going to swell the occupancy.

Yonatan Zunger claims that Vic Gundotra approved the change.

by psbp 12y ago

Yonatan Zunger claims that Vic Gundotra approved the change.

I won't believe that unless Vic can prove it. edit: I'm being downvoted, but remember that Vic is the one who pushed the names policy in the first place.

aiiane 12y ago
It's still possible to change your mind. Also, some things to consider: (a) Yonatan is the tech lead for G+. This is something he would be an authority on. (b) I also work for Google, have no particular reason to be loyal to Vic [I've opposed the names policy from the start], and I'm also willing to vouch that Vic approved it. So if you still don't think that's enough to believe it, well, that's your prerogative, but I doubt anything is going to convince you in that case.
- aestetix 12y ago
  Vic has been particularly offensive about this. The restaurant analogy comes to mind. He also stonewalled for a long time, was kind of a dick about it, and refused to budge when presented with evidence. If something magically made him change his mind, I would love to know what it was. That said, do you know what evidence made Vic push the names policy in the first place?
  - aiiane 12y ago
    I don't think anything "magically" changed it - more just it evolved over time. See the quote from Yonatan I posted elsewhere in this thread regarding the original motivations and successes or lack thereof. No idea on evidence question.
    - aestetix 12y ago
      Surely there were discussions which lead to the names policy, as well as more discussions that lead to the repeal of it? I have a hard time believing that a single person at Google (Vic) would be given so much free reign to make policy changes based on how it "felt" without having a shred of evidence. Unless I'm misunderstanding?
  - a3n 12y ago
    Total guess: Google wanted a world where Google could sell real, identifiable people to advertisers. Not enough real, identifiable people came to the restaurant. At this point I doubt a name free-for-all is going to swell the occupancy.