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but its not PHP 5.7

by wnevets 12y ago

but its not PHP 5.7

ck2 12y ago
There is some confusion over the version naming because the version file inside phpng says 5.7.0 - but that might just be a placeholder: https://github.com/php/php-src/blob/phpng/main/php_version.h https://github.com/php/php-src/blob/phpng/main/php_version.h #define PHP_VERSION "5.7.0-dev"
- sarciszewski 12y ago
  Whether it's 5.7 or 6.0 (or as one suggestion pegged it, 7.0), it's still phpng :)
  - bagels 12y ago
    Yes, but the title of this article says "5.7" which implies something different from "phpng"
    - pan69 12y ago
      But it's not. Its referring to phpng as 5.7.
wnevets 12y ago
I get down-voted for stating a fact, welcome to hacker news.
- poopsintub 12y ago
  The increasing douchebaggery of this site seems to be unwelcoming to even comment anymore.
  - poopsintub 12y ago
    My point exactly.
    - pg_is_a_butt 12y ago
      hackernews = stagnated
- nerdy 12y ago
  While you shouldn't have been downvoted, you also shouldn't complain about it. "Resist complaining about being downmodded. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading. " ~ https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html That said, while both you and ircmaxell (who is a commenter on the article's page and very involved in the PHP community) can be a bit terse when making assertions it doesn't make you wrong. I can't possibly see this being labeled 5.x and the 6.x major version number is inseparably bound to the 5-year-old vaporware.
  - paulhauggis 12y ago
    If we don't complain about it, nothing will change and the nonsense will continue. Hacker News used to be a great place for open discussion. Now, anything even slightly against the silicon valley hive-mind is downvoted. Any time PHP comes up, there are tons of garbage comments stating how terrible of a language it is. This is not constructive in any way and adds nothing to the discussion. No downvotes in sight. Why? Because the downvoting is only used as a tool to silence opposing viewpoints. It has almost nothing to do with keeping out the trolls. I guess I shouldn't be surprised. It's almost a perfect mirror of our society today. Just look at all of the people getting fired and having their careers ruined for merely having opposing viewpoints to the special interest groups in the US.
    - jasonlotito 12y ago
      > If we don't complain about it, nothing will change and the nonsense will continue. It corrected itself, and the post is fine now. Complaining about down votes, however, should be discouraged. > Hacker News used to be a great place for open discussion. Now, anything even slightly against the silicon valley hive-mind is downvoted. I've been bearing that since I joined. > Because the downvoting is only used as a tool to silence opposing viewpoints. That's not true. Coming into a thread still going on, you're just getting a snapshot. Yes, there will be up votes and down votes, but I find that generally things get corrected in the end. However, contributing to the problem by complaining about down votes doesn't help matters. It makes them worse. What's interesting is that the comment getting down voted now: "I get down-voted for stating a fact, welcome to hacker news.", is false in every way.
blueflow 12y ago
Until an official statement yours is wrong in the same way like the title.
- wnevets 12y ago
  Until its been accepted (it hasnt) it shouldn't be called any version number. So my comment is correct, the title is not.

but its not PHP 5.7

by wnevets 12y ago

but its not PHP 5.7

ck2 12y ago

There is some confusion over the version naming because the version file inside phpng says 5.7.0 - but that might just be a placeholder: https://github.com/php/php-src/blob/phpng/main/php_version.h https://github.com/php/php-src/blob/phpng/main/php_version.h #define PHP_VERSION "5.7.0-dev"

sarciszewski 12y ago
Whether it's 5.7 or 6.0 (or as one suggestion pegged it, 7.0), it's still phpng :)
- bagels 12y ago
  Yes, but the title of this article says "5.7" which implies something different from "phpng"
  - pan69 12y ago
    But it's not. Its referring to phpng as 5.7.

wnevets 12y ago

I get down-voted for stating a fact, welcome to hacker news.

poopsintub 12y ago
The increasing douchebaggery of this site seems to be unwelcoming to even comment anymore.
- poopsintub 12y ago
  My point exactly.
  - pg_is_a_butt 12y ago
    hackernews = stagnated
nerdy 12y ago
While you shouldn't have been downvoted, you also shouldn't complain about it. "Resist complaining about being downmodded. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading. " ~ https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html That said, while both you and ircmaxell (who is a commenter on the article's page and very involved in the PHP community) can be a bit terse when making assertions it doesn't make you wrong. I can't possibly see this being labeled 5.x and the 6.x major version number is inseparably bound to the 5-year-old vaporware.
- paulhauggis 12y ago
  If we don't complain about it, nothing will change and the nonsense will continue. Hacker News used to be a great place for open discussion. Now, anything even slightly against the silicon valley hive-mind is downvoted. Any time PHP comes up, there are tons of garbage comments stating how terrible of a language it is. This is not constructive in any way and adds nothing to the discussion. No downvotes in sight. Why? Because the downvoting is only used as a tool to silence opposing viewpoints. It has almost nothing to do with keeping out the trolls. I guess I shouldn't be surprised. It's almost a perfect mirror of our society today. Just look at all of the people getting fired and having their careers ruined for merely having opposing viewpoints to the special interest groups in the US.
  - jasonlotito 12y ago
    > If we don't complain about it, nothing will change and the nonsense will continue. It corrected itself, and the post is fine now. Complaining about down votes, however, should be discouraged. > Hacker News used to be a great place for open discussion. Now, anything even slightly against the silicon valley hive-mind is downvoted. I've been bearing that since I joined. > Because the downvoting is only used as a tool to silence opposing viewpoints. That's not true. Coming into a thread still going on, you're just getting a snapshot. Yes, there will be up votes and down votes, but I find that generally things get corrected in the end. However, contributing to the problem by complaining about down votes doesn't help matters. It makes them worse. What's interesting is that the comment getting down voted now: "I get down-voted for stating a fact, welcome to hacker news.", is false in every way.

blueflow 12y ago

Until an official statement yours is wrong in the same way like the title.

wnevets 12y ago
Until its been accepted (it hasnt) it shouldn't be called any version number. So my comment is correct, the title is not.