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That fibers have been tapped by state actors was well known pre-Snowden (I recall reading a story about how subs were used in Russia etc), yet Google only compl
by spacefight 12y ago
That fibers have been tapped by state actors was well known pre-Snowden (I recall reading a story about how subs were used in Russia etc), yet Google only completed encrypting their private fibers post-Swnoden.
- viraptor 12y agoSure, but as far as we know Google was not aware of it (it = US internal taping) and introduced encryption of private traffic to counteract it. I'm not aware of articles proving they knew about the taps. Are you? (yes, we can speculate they did, but let's say it like that)
- spacefight 12y agoSo the US tapped overseas cables for at least a couple of centuries (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ivy_Bells http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ivy_Bells) and people still feel amused by the MUSCULAR relevations...
- mike_hearn 12y agoThe assumption pre-Snowden was that only "hostile states" did that kind of thing, e.g fibres in and out of China were probably tapped, but most of the internet wasn't. Because, you know, search warrants do exist. It's rather arrogant to say "everyone should have known". Snowden's leaks have been making waves for a year solid now exactly because he showed that reality was the worst case scenario only the most extreme of the extreme postulated previously.
- vezzy-fnord 12y agoIt's rather arrogant to say "everyone should have known". No, it isn't. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DCSNet http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DCSNet http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECHELON http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECHELON http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clipper_chip http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clipper_chip http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Room_641A http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Room_641A http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_SHAMROCK http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_SHAMROCK http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President%27s_Surveillance_Program http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President%27s_Surveillance_Prog... etc. Of course, no one listened. It was much easier to just decry everyone as a "crazy conspiracy theorist", wasn't it?
- spacefight 12y agoThis. And thanks to everyone for the down-vote, much love from Google these days, eh?
- antocv 12y agoJesus, the Google puppets are out strong on this one. Amazing.