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Shouldn't we play fair with them? Although you can use that link to download it (yep, it works), where is the point to don't keep it to ourselves? Heck, I unde

Shouldn't we play fair with them? Although you can use that link to download it (yep, it works), where is the point to don't keep it to ourselves? Heck, I understand we all want to see when we want because we have better things to do now or not enough time. Regardless, I don't think we should ruin from starters their commercial project. I mean, it's not even a DRM. Just a weak misleading protection layer from Vimeo for deterring little noobs that don't know how to use their browser's debug console. Let's give the creators some advantage before gaming the system.

sp332 12y ago
Well, downloading the video from Vimeo doesn't cost the project anything. And if I like the video, then I can support them by paying. I don't see any upside to taking on the risk myself. Also, if someone genuinely can't afford the price, they can still enjoy the video. That seems like a net win for society.
- im_dario 12y ago
  Yes, you can download it and support them by paying later. I agree. But... I see no point into publishing the direct stream link. Although it's funny due what the movie is about, I think it creates some disadvantages for them. I hope they took in mind this and they don't feel threatened by this behavior.
  - sp332 12y ago
    The stream link will go down at the same time that the movie gets pulled from vimeo.
    - im_dario 12y ago
      I know but it doesn't invalidate my point. No matter how long, more "leechers" are going to abuse the system instead of a few "geeks" with the knowledge. Sure, if the timespan is short, almost no damages will be taken. Unless it gets distributed through other networks. If they didn't expected this, they may be upset. Hey, even maybe this was the main purpose, to go viral. Who knows. I just wanted to share how I felt to see the stream link published.
      - sp332 12y ago
        Ah, I actually expected this to happen so I guess I wasn't affected the same way. If you check the pirate bay, you can find every mainstream movie no matter how much DRM there is on it. So it doesn't surprise me that a video posted online got ripped off already. Also, it's been proven in multiple studies that piracy doesn't hurt a project's bottom line, so I hope they're not too worried about that.
      - aluhut 12y ago
        Ripping a stream is not hacking. I did it through FlshGot. This is no science. It's just a rightclick. This is not some hidden elite treasure you need to hide here.
        im_dario 12y ago
        I didn't say that. Nevermind.
        aluhut 12y ago
        You were talking about keeping things to ourselves and "geek" knowledge.
        im_dario 12y ago
        I didn't say it was hacking. There is a little difference and they are not equal.
        aluhut 12y ago
        It changes absoultly nothing in this context here. However you call it. You wanted to keep some knowledge to yourself because you thought it may be some kind of special thing. It's not. Especially not here.
  - __david__ 12y ago
    > But... I see no point into publishing the direct stream link. I do: now I can watch the movie on my TV instead of my computer screen. With my current setup, having a naked mp4 file is the only way for me to easily do this.
Remiii 12y ago
Good point.
joeyspn 12y ago
Agree... leave them make some money
jdbernard 12y ago
That's hilarious, because from what I've seen so far in the first 30 minutes of the movie, the main characters would have no qualms about bypassing the protections. I'm hoping that the movie gets better, but so far it's espousing the teenage-wannabe-god version of being a hacker.
opless 12y ago
"Play fair" ? surely information wants to be free? :-)
- im_dario 12y ago
  I'm all in when there is somebody abusing the system as majors or big lobbies. I don't feel the same when it is smaller. That's why small producers' crowdfundings tend to work, because we appreciate the effort. Information wants to be free. True. It doesn't mean free-for-all. A little note aside the link saying: "hey, wouldn't be great to donate to them if we like it" would be fairer than just simply pasting the link.

sp332 12y ago

Well, downloading the video from Vimeo doesn't cost the project anything. And if I like the video, then I can support them by paying. I don't see any upside to taking on the risk myself. Also, if someone genuinely can't afford the price, they can still enjoy the video. That seems like a net win for society.

im_dario 12y ago
Yes, you can download it and support them by paying later. I agree. But... I see no point into publishing the direct stream link. Although it's funny due what the movie is about, I think it creates some disadvantages for them. I hope they took in mind this and they don't feel threatened by this behavior.
- sp332 12y ago
  The stream link will go down at the same time that the movie gets pulled from vimeo.
  - im_dario 12y ago
    I know but it doesn't invalidate my point. No matter how long, more "leechers" are going to abuse the system instead of a few "geeks" with the knowledge. Sure, if the timespan is short, almost no damages will be taken. Unless it gets distributed through other networks. If they didn't expected this, they may be upset. Hey, even maybe this was the main purpose, to go viral. Who knows. I just wanted to share how I felt to see the stream link published.
    - sp332 12y ago
      Ah, I actually expected this to happen so I guess I wasn't affected the same way. If you check the pirate bay, you can find every mainstream movie no matter how much DRM there is on it. So it doesn't surprise me that a video posted online got ripped off already. Also, it's been proven in multiple studies that piracy doesn't hurt a project's bottom line, so I hope they're not too worried about that.
    - aluhut 12y ago
      Ripping a stream is not hacking. I did it through FlshGot. This is no science. It's just a rightclick. This is not some hidden elite treasure you need to hide here.
      - im_dario 12y ago
        I didn't say that. Nevermind.
        aluhut 12y ago
        You were talking about keeping things to ourselves and "geek" knowledge.
        im_dario 12y ago
        I didn't say it was hacking. There is a little difference and they are not equal.
        aluhut 12y ago
        It changes absoultly nothing in this context here. However you call it. You wanted to keep some knowledge to yourself because you thought it may be some kind of special thing. It's not. Especially not here.
- __david__ 12y ago
  > But... I see no point into publishing the direct stream link. I do: now I can watch the movie on my TV instead of my computer screen. With my current setup, having a naked mp4 file is the only way for me to easily do this.

Remiii 12y ago

Good point.

joeyspn 12y ago

Agree... leave them make some money

jdbernard 12y ago

That's hilarious, because from what I've seen so far in the first 30 minutes of the movie, the main characters would have no qualms about bypassing the protections. I'm hoping that the movie gets better, but so far it's espousing the teenage-wannabe-god version of being a hacker.

opless 12y ago

"Play fair" ? surely information wants to be free? :-)

im_dario 12y ago
I'm all in when there is somebody abusing the system as majors or big lobbies. I don't feel the same when it is smaller. That's why small producers' crowdfundings tend to work, because we appreciate the effort. Information wants to be free. True. It doesn't mean free-for-all. A little note aside the link saying: "hey, wouldn't be great to donate to them if we like it" would be fairer than just simply pasting the link.