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I guess I don't understand how the title and subtitle are linked. The synopsis and trailers don't talk about algorithms at all. Also, a lot of the trailers fo

I guess I don't understand how the title and subtitle are linked. The synopsis and trailers don't talk about algorithms at all. Also, a lot of the trailers focus on cracking, it appears, and not hacking as in doing creative things and using things in ways not expected? Why would someone aiming at the tech community use a word so wrongly, and in a way that riles some of us up? While I understand that mono uses the .exe suffix, not many other things do in the *nix ecosystem, but the screen shot they use shows what appears to be ls -l output and all the files have a .exe suffix. EDIT: Fair enough, I'm being a bit too critical of the exe files. (I don't think there is a strike-out markup supported?)

nawitus 12y ago
>Also, a lot of the trailers focus on cracking, it appears, and not hacking as in doing creative things and using things in ways not expected? Why would someone aiming at the tech community use a word so wrongly, and in a way that riles some of us up? Because most of 'us' stopped complaining about that ten years ago. The meaning of words change.
- pyre 12y ago
  Yet you hang out on 'Hacker News' without fear of being associated with black hats?
  - modfodder 12y ago
    because "Crack the Planet" doesn't have the same ring...
- kipple 12y ago
  Stopped complaining when laypersons misuse it, sure. But can't we keep the real meaning within our own nomenclature? When I go to a hackathon I expect to be building something.
_-throwaway-_ 12y ago
suspension of disbelief aside, it is totally plausible that he is ssh'ed into a remote linux machine and is listing the contents of a directory called "evil_windows_binaries"...
- pyre 12y ago
  Or a linux-hosted Samba share that's mounted on Windows machines (e.g. a university computer lab).
delluminatus 12y ago
Those exe files look like payloads destined for Windows machines. Although the screenshot is surely staged, I could imagine seeing output like that in a USB Linux system for physical-access cracking, or if someone was collecting cracked executables for distribution or examination, or if they went ham generating exploit containers in Metasploit. Security work/pentesting is one of the few situations where you could legitimately find yourself working with a lot of EXE files in Linux, because your targets are typically Windows systems.
dragonwriter 12y ago
EDIT: replaced * characters that were causing format problems. > While I understand that mono uses the .exe suffix, not many other things do in the -nix ecosystem, but the screen shot they use shows what appears to be ls -l output and all the files have a .exe suffix. So? "ls -l" means you have something that provides -nix style command line utilities, which doesn't mean you are on -nix -- plenty of people have that on Windows. And, of course, there's no reason you can't have mono executables -- or Windows executables, for that matter -- all in a directory on a -nix machine, as well.
- gweinberg 12y ago
  yeah, I've gotten sufficiently used to nix that I always install some basic gnu utils on a windows box if I am going to use it. And typing ls saves a char over dir.

nawitus 12y ago

>Also, a lot of the trailers focus on cracking, it appears, and not hacking as in doing creative things and using things in ways not expected? Why would someone aiming at the tech community use a word so wrongly, and in a way that riles some of us up? Because most of 'us' stopped complaining about that ten years ago. The meaning of words change.

pyre 12y ago
Yet you hang out on 'Hacker News' without fear of being associated with black hats?
- modfodder 12y ago
  because "Crack the Planet" doesn't have the same ring...
kipple 12y ago
Stopped complaining when laypersons misuse it, sure. But can't we keep the real meaning within our own nomenclature? When I go to a hackathon I expect to be building something.

_-throwaway-_ 12y ago

suspension of disbelief aside, it is totally plausible that he is ssh'ed into a remote linux machine and is listing the contents of a directory called "evil_windows_binaries"...

pyre 12y ago
Or a linux-hosted Samba share that's mounted on Windows machines (e.g. a university computer lab).

delluminatus 12y ago

Those exe files look like payloads destined for Windows machines. Although the screenshot is surely staged, I could imagine seeing output like that in a USB Linux system for physical-access cracking, or if someone was collecting cracked executables for distribution or examination, or if they went ham generating exploit containers in Metasploit. Security work/pentesting is one of the few situations where you could legitimately find yourself working with a lot of EXE files in Linux, because your targets are typically Windows systems.

dragonwriter 12y ago

EDIT: replaced * characters that were causing format problems. > While I understand that mono uses the .exe suffix, not many other things do in the -nix ecosystem, but the screen shot they use shows what appears to be ls -l output and all the files have a .exe suffix. So? "ls -l" means you have something that provides -nix style command line utilities, which doesn't mean you are on -nix -- plenty of people have that on Windows. And, of course, there's no reason you can't have mono executables -- or Windows executables, for that matter -- all in a directory on a -nix machine, as well.

gweinberg 12y ago
yeah, I've gotten sufficiently used to nix that I always install some basic gnu utils on a windows box if I am going to use it. And typing ls saves a char over dir.