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So? Danone makes yogurts with probiotics. I think they might be interested in knowing if there is any value to a diet <=> mood connection. If you would take you

by bignaj 12y ago

So? Danone makes yogurts with probiotics. I think they might be interested in knowing if there is any value to a diet <=> mood connection. If you would take your head out of the sand you'd know that lots of research is funded by industry and that's not necessarily bad.

Paul_Dessert 12y ago
Yeah, no conflict of interest whatsoever...
- bignaj 12y ago
  Breaking: people invest money in things that interest or could benefit them. I can see what you're saying but your own personal (subjective) opinions about corporations may be clouding your reasoning.
  - Paul_Dessert 12y ago
    "your own personal (subjective) opinions about corporations" What do you know about my opinions?
  - bignaj 12y ago
    @Paul_Dessert: you don't try especially hard to hide them.
- angersock 12y ago
  Just because they have a special interest doesn't mean that there is a conflict of interest. You can still get useful science from people that are hoping for a particular outcome.
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- Panoramix 12y ago
  First of all, they acknowledged the conflict of interest. Are you suggesting, based on zero evidence, that their findings were somehow fabricated - a claim that if true would ruin the careers and lives of the scientists at hand? While not unthinkable, it is a type of conspiracy theory thought. Should you have a problem with their methods, data acquisition, etc etc. then it would be a completely different story, but to dismiss something based on some sort of belief is very unscientific.
  - Paul_Dessert 12y ago
    I'm not arguing the science. It may be 100% correct. My issue the fact that a corporation with a very big upside is funding the research. That's all. Think about it.
    - oldmanjay 12y ago
      You'll have to do better than "think about it" if you want your reasons to make sense outside of your own head.
      - Paul_Dessert 12y ago
        It's okay. I understand common sense isn't so common...
  - fragsworth 12y ago
    > Are you suggesting, based on zero evidence, that their findings were somehow fabricated - a claim that if true would ruin the careers and lives of the scientists at hand? It's usually more that if a researcher is trying to research something they really want to believe, it is extremely difficult to stay objective. Subconsciously, they can easily miss or overlook things that appear insignificant at first glance, but are actually very important. Making note that there's a conflict of interest is very important, and when there is one, it's not unreasonable to wait for the experiment to be reproduced before really believing it.
chippy 12y ago
but which research is favoured, published and promoted?

by bignaj 12y ago

Paul_Dessert 12y ago

Yeah, no conflict of interest whatsoever...

bignaj 12y ago
Breaking: people invest money in things that interest or could benefit them. I can see what you're saying but your own personal (subjective) opinions about corporations may be clouding your reasoning.
- Paul_Dessert 12y ago
  "your own personal (subjective) opinions about corporations" What do you know about my opinions?
- bignaj 12y ago
  @Paul_Dessert: you don't try especially hard to hide them.
angersock 12y ago
Just because they have a special interest doesn't mean that there is a conflict of interest. You can still get useful science from people that are hoping for a particular outcome.
- deleted 12y ago
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Panoramix 12y ago
First of all, they acknowledged the conflict of interest. Are you suggesting, based on zero evidence, that their findings were somehow fabricated - a claim that if true would ruin the careers and lives of the scientists at hand? While not unthinkable, it is a type of conspiracy theory thought. Should you have a problem with their methods, data acquisition, etc etc. then it would be a completely different story, but to dismiss something based on some sort of belief is very unscientific.
- Paul_Dessert 12y ago
  I'm not arguing the science. It may be 100% correct. My issue the fact that a corporation with a very big upside is funding the research. That's all. Think about it.
  - oldmanjay 12y ago
    You'll have to do better than "think about it" if you want your reasons to make sense outside of your own head.
    - Paul_Dessert 12y ago
      It's okay. I understand common sense isn't so common...
- fragsworth 12y ago
  > Are you suggesting, based on zero evidence, that their findings were somehow fabricated - a claim that if true would ruin the careers and lives of the scientists at hand? It's usually more that if a researcher is trying to research something they really want to believe, it is extremely difficult to stay objective. Subconsciously, they can easily miss or overlook things that appear insignificant at first glance, but are actually very important. Making note that there's a conflict of interest is very important, and when there is one, it's not unreasonable to wait for the experiment to be reproduced before really believing it.

chippy 12y ago

but which research is favoured, published and promoted?