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It's a great list, but I don't understand why it's limited to SaaS. Self hosted apps could definitely be considered "tools of the trade". Perhaps I'm just biase

It's a great list, but I don't understand why it's limited to SaaS. Self hosted apps could definitely be considered "tools of the trade". Perhaps I'm just biased because I sell a self hosted project management app - http://duetapp.com http://duetapp.com, but it seems like an arbitrary distinction....

pc86 12y ago
OT to the post, but is there a reason you went the self-hosted route rather than SaaS?
- stephenr 12y ago
  The same question could be asked for any SaaS provider. I seriously do not understand the constant circle jerk over SaaS. How many companies going tits up does it take before someone says "hmm maybe if I control it I have less risk"
  - pc86 12y ago
    Of course the same question could be asked of any SaaS provider, and I'm sure it is in the appropriate context. However, 23andwalnut did choose to go the self-hosted route so I think my question about why he chose to go the self-hosted route is completely valid and not at all a circle jerk over SaaS. You seem incredibly defensive over a simple question.
    - stephenr 12y ago
      Your question implies that SaaS is the assumed/"normal"/"natural" way to go when developing software, which is basically the circle jerk I was referring to - if it isn't a format locked system your customers have 0 control over or visibility into, it isn't worth doing?
      - pc86 12y ago
        My question implies that SaaS is the default/most common path. Which, without making any judgment either way, it is.
        stephenr 12y ago
        According to who? You do know software existed before the current bubble of over excited VC funded "startups" right?
- 23andwalnut 12y ago
  Short story - It's a product that I needed that didn't exist. There are only a handful of self hosted project management apps and none of them felt like the right fit, especially with regard to UX. After a couple of years of waiting I finally decided to build it myself. I wrote about some other reasons on my blog (i.e. cost), but the primary reason is that I wanted it for myself. Here are the links to the blog posts if you're interested in reading more about my thought process: http://www.duetapp.com/blog/no-more-project-management-apps/ http://www.duetapp.com/blog/no-more-project-management-apps/ http://www.duetapp.com/blog/is-saas-the-only-business-model-for-the-web/ http://www.duetapp.com/blog/is-saas-the-only-business-model-...
  - pc86 12y ago
    Thanks! It's always interesting to hear the thought process behind entrepreneurs choosing a path that isn't the norm (since SaaS does seem to be the default path for better or worse).

pc86 12y ago

OT to the post, but is there a reason you went the self-hosted route rather than SaaS?

stephenr 12y ago
The same question could be asked for any SaaS provider. I seriously do not understand the constant circle jerk over SaaS. How many companies going tits up does it take before someone says "hmm maybe if I control it I have less risk"
- pc86 12y ago
  Of course the same question could be asked of any SaaS provider, and I'm sure it is in the appropriate context. However, 23andwalnut did choose to go the self-hosted route so I think my question about why he chose to go the self-hosted route is completely valid and not at all a circle jerk over SaaS. You seem incredibly defensive over a simple question.
  - stephenr 12y ago
    Your question implies that SaaS is the assumed/"normal"/"natural" way to go when developing software, which is basically the circle jerk I was referring to - if it isn't a format locked system your customers have 0 control over or visibility into, it isn't worth doing?
    - pc86 12y ago
      My question implies that SaaS is the default/most common path. Which, without making any judgment either way, it is.
      - stephenr 12y ago
        According to who? You do know software existed before the current bubble of over excited VC funded "startups" right?
23andwalnut 12y ago
Short story - It's a product that I needed that didn't exist. There are only a handful of self hosted project management apps and none of them felt like the right fit, especially with regard to UX. After a couple of years of waiting I finally decided to build it myself. I wrote about some other reasons on my blog (i.e. cost), but the primary reason is that I wanted it for myself. Here are the links to the blog posts if you're interested in reading more about my thought process: http://www.duetapp.com/blog/no-more-project-management-apps/ http://www.duetapp.com/blog/no-more-project-management-apps/ http://www.duetapp.com/blog/is-saas-the-only-business-model-for-the-web/ http://www.duetapp.com/blog/is-saas-the-only-business-model-...
- pc86 12y ago
  Thanks! It's always interesting to hear the thought process behind entrepreneurs choosing a path that isn't the norm (since SaaS does seem to be the default path for better or worse).