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It's interesting how every time this comes up we see Americans protesting how it's the wrong approach to take. It's ok guys, you're welcome to keep your third

by ripb 12y ago

It's interesting how every time this comes up we see Americans protesting how it's the wrong approach to take. It's ok guys, you're welcome to keep your third world working conditions, just don't expect the rest of the progressive world to.

growupkids 12y ago
It has been tried before in Sweden, and it didn't work then either. It actually made workers sicker, and people were expected to do the same amount of work in less time.
- Pirate-of-SV 12y ago
  Are you thinking about the change from 10 to 8 hours? Because that change seems to have been quite successful all over the world. Regarding the 8 hour work day: “One of the first businesses to implement this was the Ford Motor Company, in 1914, which not only cut the standard work day to eight hours, but also doubled their worker’s pay in the process. To the shock of many industries, this resulted in Ford’s productivity off of these same workers, but with fewer hours, actually increasing significantly and Ford’s profit margins doubled within two years. This encouraged other companies to adopt the shorter, eight hour work day as a standard for their employees.” http://blog.bufferapp.com/optimal-work-time-how-long-should-we-work-every-day-the-science-of-mental-strength http://blog.bufferapp.com/optimal-work-time-how-long-should-...
  - Kiro 12y ago
    No, they tried 6 hour days in Kiruna with dismal results.
Loughla 12y ago
I've held several positions in America, from subsistence farmer to minimum wage retail flunky to upper management in higher education. I've also been to 3rd world countries in South America. None of the places I have worked were 3rd world working conditions including the subsistence farming (we had much nicer/safer machinery). Granted it's a small sample size, but still. Anyway. Stop with the hyperbole. It's an ineffective argument tool, it's insulting, and it shuts people off from debate.
- grecy 12y ago
  You're right, the parent was exaggerating. Let me fix it: It's ok guys, you're welcome to keep your Worst in the developed world working conditions, just don't expect the rest of the progressive world to.

by ripb 12y ago

growupkids 12y ago

It has been tried before in Sweden, and it didn't work then either. It actually made workers sicker, and people were expected to do the same amount of work in less time.

Pirate-of-SV 12y ago
Are you thinking about the change from 10 to 8 hours? Because that change seems to have been quite successful all over the world. Regarding the 8 hour work day: “One of the first businesses to implement this was the Ford Motor Company, in 1914, which not only cut the standard work day to eight hours, but also doubled their worker’s pay in the process. To the shock of many industries, this resulted in Ford’s productivity off of these same workers, but with fewer hours, actually increasing significantly and Ford’s profit margins doubled within two years. This encouraged other companies to adopt the shorter, eight hour work day as a standard for their employees.” http://blog.bufferapp.com/optimal-work-time-how-long-should-we-work-every-day-the-science-of-mental-strength http://blog.bufferapp.com/optimal-work-time-how-long-should-...
- Kiro 12y ago
  No, they tried 6 hour days in Kiruna with dismal results.

Loughla 12y ago

I've held several positions in America, from subsistence farmer to minimum wage retail flunky to upper management in higher education. I've also been to 3rd world countries in South America. None of the places I have worked were 3rd world working conditions including the subsistence farming (we had much nicer/safer machinery). Granted it's a small sample size, but still. Anyway. Stop with the hyperbole. It's an ineffective argument tool, it's insulting, and it shuts people off from debate.

grecy 12y ago
You're right, the parent was exaggerating. Let me fix it: It's ok guys, you're welcome to keep your Worst in the developed world working conditions, just don't expect the rest of the progressive world to.