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Show HN: A mostly complete 2014 "Tools of the Trade"
- smit 12y agoAwesome list. I recommend adding ToutApp(http://toutapp.com http://toutapp.com) under sales tools.
- sikhnerd 12y agoCreated a PR for a basic table of contents, I can see this being pretty useful when the need arises.
- yonasb 12y agoNice job Chris! If anyone wants to see feedback from other developers about these tools, the majority of them are on http://leanstack.io/popular http://leanstack.io/popular (disclaimer: Founder of Leanstack.io here).
- narsil 12y agoNice app. I noticed vendors can't self-select a category. That might be a useful feature for services that want to identify themselves in a category that isn't immediately clear. For example, the lines could blur between File Storage and Cloud Storage.
- yonasb 12y agoThanks! Self-selecting for categories could get tricky because we're regularly creating and deleting categories as we see fit. We'd rather stay on top of that than put the burden on vendors. But we usually do make edits if a vendor asks.
- vacri 12y agoWhy are there two different Log Monitoring sections, with no overlap in tools? An alphabetisation of section headings and a clickable Table of Contents would be good, given the pretty comprehensive nature of the list.
- vangale 12y agoI think it's because the list is being built by pull requests. Two people submit a Log Monitoring section at the same time and the repo owner merges without really paying attention.
- rdtsc 12y agoIs anyone surprised that so many of those are payed services instead of OSS projects? I understand payroll, analytics and others like such. But things like bug trackers, dashboards, CIs, exception handling, log monitoring. At some level maybe it is a bit like selling shovels during a gold rush. Find what most start-ups need and monetize that. The gold prospector has a high chance of going home empty-handed, but he will surely need a shovel to even start digging.
- cwyers 12y agoThe post that inspired it: "When I first started delicious, we had to host most of the services ourselves. CVS, mail, mailing lists, etc etc etc. These days, lots of that stuff is available as SaaS. What are the tools and services people use instead of hosting their own?" If you want to do self-hosting, there's open source available for pretty much every category. That's not what this list is for, though.
- voltagex_ 12y agoWill you reject pulls adding open source tools?
- cwyers 12y agoNot my repo, so I can't speak to that, all I did was quote from the doc to emphasis what it said.
- rmc 12y agoNot my repo, but there are some open source tools there. Under load testing it has Bees with Machine Guns ( https://github.com/newsapps/beeswithmachineguns https://github.com/newsapps/beeswithmachineguns ), which is MIT licence.
- alexatkeplar 12y agoSnowplow is in there and we are Apache 2.0 :-)
- ntakasaki 12y agoI missing the web directories of yore that have such nice lists. Search engines only bring up a few relevant results and the rest are all keyword and link stuffed. Hope you take some pull requests or make this a wiki.
- vxNsr 12y agoThis is a very valid point, the other day I was looking for a wifi sniffer tool because I was getting terrible speeds over the last couple weeks and I wanted to ascertain the cause; there was nothing recently put out that compared more than 2 products, nearly all the blog posts were from 3-4 years ago, and the tools they compared were either bought out by cisco and the like or went out of business/ended support. really just having this type of list would be huge.
- mikeknoop 12y agoThis list does a great job of curating the most popular apps by category. There's a ton of long-tail to SaaS these days. I've heard a lot of people use our app directory to discover some of them: https://zapier.com/zapbook https://zapier.com/zapbook
- nawitus 12y ago>Continuous Integration/Code Quality There's Strider.
- girvo 12y agoWhich is a great app, but a bit rough around the edges currently. Getting there though.
- narsil 12y agoI created a PR for a Cloud Storage section since I didn't notice one yet and added https://kloudless.com https://kloudless.com to it. (disclosure: co-founder of Kloudless here). Google Docs is probably the closest cloud storage-related utility on that list, but is under the "Notes" category.
- voltagex_ 12y agoAnother updated list of tools and utilities: http://www.hanselman.com/blog/ScottHanselmans2014UltimateDeveloperAndPowerUsersToolListForWindows.aspx http://www.hanselman.com/blog/ScottHanselmans2014UltimateDev...
- ilzmastr 12y agowaffle.io is hyperdope on the Bug/Issue Tracking side too. Makes GH issues look like trello, and allows boards for multiple repos.
- ericHosick 12y agoSerenity. :-)
- pm 12y agoCheers, just been looking for this kind of thing, seeing as my workflow is centered around GitHub.
- Zweihander 12y agoWhat happened to all the applications and services for outsourcing HR departments in terms of payroll, benefits, ect.? -- thought there were a bunch more than Workday and ZenPayroll? Getting a full list of those would be particularly useful.
- andyzweb 12y agoADP off the top of my head
- hyp0 12y agoall services - do people still pay for code? i.e. commercial libraries or has open source finally killed that business model?
- martiuk 12y agoJenkins is the only free software on the list, and it's listed with a payment next to it?
- CmonDev 12y agoYes, developers still want to eat (strangely enough).
- maccard 12y agoNot everyone is a startup working with node or RoR. Most companies with more than a handful of staff would rather pay someone else to make sure it doesn't break.
- pjmlp 12y agoDevelopers need to eat, pay for living, kids school, ...
- sleepyhead 12y agoI wish there more open-source libs offering commercial options. I don't want to see libraries I depend on being abandoned. Might also want to have access to support. I'm sure there are many companies who would pay and still want the project to be open source and have an active community. Sidekiq is one example of this which seem to be going quite well. I think it is a problem that very important projects are being developed for fun after work (openssl anyone). While I do not want the "pay for all libs" like in the .net world I do hope to see more for-profit open source projects.
- joeblau 12y agoWe tried to use Airbrake at the last startup I contracted for and it was embarrassingly underwhelming. The landing page makes it look awesome, but compared to HoneyBadger, it was just not up to par when it came to error notification. We were looking for centralized errors for Ruby and Python code so we ended up going with Rollbar. Airbrake shirts are great though.
- mverwijs 12y ago> Jenkins | http://jenkins-ci.org http://jenkins-ci.org | @jenkinsci | $60/mo - $200/mo AFAIK, and can tell from the http://jenkins-ci.org http://jenkins-ci.org site linked, Jenkins is still free (libre and gratuit).
- wyclif 12y agoGithub and Bitbucket "Issues"? I don't get that. Wonder if it's a typo.
- CmonDev 12y agoIssue tracking? I have seen a private BitBucket repo with a public list of issues. BitBucket provides private repos for free, unlike Github, by the way.
- corford 12y agoGreat list. Created a PR for gosquared, datadog and rsync.net as I couldn't see them on there.
- rsync 12y agoThanks! You may be interested to know that we just announced Petabyte and larger file systems at 3 c/GB...
- rak 12y agohttps://hakiri.io/ https://hakiri.io/ would be a nice tool to add to this list.
- _pmf_ 12y agoIt's fascinating that the proliferation of EC2 has enabled services by different vendors to be provided on virtually the same physical network (with associated performance). Much of what is attributed to the rise of SaaS and "The Cloud" is in fact a direct consequence of Amazon's infrastructure.
- ansimionescu 12y ago> Much of what is attributed to the rise of SaaS and "My Butt" is in fact a direct consequence of Amazon's infrastructure. Gotta love #cloudtobutt https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/cloud-to-butt-plus/apmlngnhgbnjpajelfkmabhkfapgnoai https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/cloud-to-butt-plus...
- pling 12y agoPay pay pay pay pay pay pay. I have all of that and pay nothing. It builds up otherwise very rapidly. For example the company I work for currently churns out a mere $16k a year for JIRA now that the pay pay pay has caught up...
- thejosh 12y agoHow many users do you have on that JIRA instance? Guessing it's ~500, which equates to around $32 per user/y, which is actually fairly cheap considering the value add the developers would get out of it.
- pling 12y ago105. We had to pay for the 500 tier for that. Fuck all extra value. 395 seats for nothing. Not only that, it's a pile of crap. It's slow, unreliable and requires so much configuration to bend it into an acceptable shape that it has cost probably 20 days' work on top of that and requires someone to spend 2-3 days a month on it. It has also gone down twice due to workflow failures and indexing bugs which have taken a day to resolve bouncing back and forth to support (they are actually quite good). We also integrate with Crucible which barely works on a good day and we've resorted to restarting it twice a day to stop it leaking memory and hanging. Plus it takes 9 whole days to index our repository after an upgrade!!! And we can't go hosted because X isn't available and Y isn't available. Also hosted LOST a load of people's data a year or so ago. Believe it or not, including the pricing strategy and administrative overhead we could have wrote our own tailored software for less after 3 years. Bad product selection on our part, but despite the marketing and general buzz around Atlassian being the opposite, it stinks as a platform. Nothing but pain.
- wise_young_man 12y agoWould you be interested in a custom built product based on your needs?
- prawks 12y agoYou have to pick your poison: build up subscription costs, or build up support costs to maintain your own deployments. Depending on your budget, the number of users, the need, the support contract with the vendor, and your priorities, the costs can go either way. That's the premise that both ___ as a service and ___ proprietary software selling support contracts are built upon.
- chatmasta 12y agoI would add Chargebee for recurring billing and Scout for server monitoring. Two polished, quality tools with solid teams behind them.
- adivik2000 12y agoThank you! Added it to the list. :)
- michaelbuckbee 12y agoList only has (the neat) Hirefire under Heroku tools, here's a list of 60 separate Heroku tools: https://www.expeditedssl.com/pages/the-hot-and-heavy-list-of-heroku-development-resources https://www.expeditedssl.com/pages/the-hot-and-heavy-list-of...
- chandrew 12y agoI work at a startup and we do CRM and we aren't on there!
- binarymax 12y agoFork it, add your startup, and make a pull request :)
- 23andwalnut 12y agoIt's a great list, but I don't understand why it's limited to SaaS. Self hosted apps could definitely be considered "tools of the trade". Perhaps I'm just biased because I sell a self hosted project management app - http://duetapp.com http://duetapp.com, but it seems like an arbitrary distinction....
- pc86 12y agoOT to the post, but is there a reason you went the self-hosted route rather than SaaS?
- stephenr 12y agoThe same question could be asked for any SaaS provider. I seriously do not understand the constant circle jerk over SaaS. How many companies going tits up does it take before someone says "hmm maybe if I control it I have less risk"
- pc86 12y agoOf course the same question could be asked of any SaaS provider, and I'm sure it is in the appropriate context. However, 23andwalnut did choose to go the self-hosted route so I think my question about why he chose to go the self-hosted route is completely valid and not at all a circle jerk over SaaS. You seem incredibly defensive over a simple question.
- stephenr 12y agoYour question implies that SaaS is the assumed/"normal"/"natural" way to go when developing software, which is basically the circle jerk I was referring to - if it isn't a format locked system your customers have 0 control over or visibility into, it isn't worth doing?
- pc86 12y agoMy question implies that SaaS is the default/most common path. Which, without making any judgment either way, it is.
- analogj 12y agoYou guys seem to be missing Wercker. http://wercker.com/ http://wercker.com/ is my favorite CI/CD. Its free while its in beta, has a great UI and has a simple but powerful configuration system
- DrFunke 12y ago"ElasticSales is currently booked out for the rest of the year and therefore not able to accept any new clients at the moment." Any alternative Sales as a Service recommendations?
- vangale 12y agoI don't know much (anything?) about sales, but these guys look like an alternative: http://www.generationsalesgroup.com/ http://www.generationsalesgroup.com/
- GhotiFish 12y agoAs a small time developer, none of these tools is in my budget, I have no budget. So this list is useless to me. Ok sure, I wasn't your target audience, that's fine. but the title doesn't suggest "Tools for active/established companies who have money to burn and needs to fill"
- aagustyana 12y agoanother tools for Remote Collaboration - GoToMeeting http://gotomeeting.com/ http://gotomeeting.com/ - Zoom.us http://zoom.us/ http://zoom.us/
- johnx123-up 12y agohttp://www.cssilize.com/ http://www.cssilize.com/ ($35) and https://sudopay.com/ https://sudopay.com/ ($29) were discussed here before.