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Raspberry Pi B+

38 points by Zenst 12y ago

schrodingersCat 12y ago
From this datasheet (http://docs-europe.electrocomponents.com/webdocs/12de/0900766b812decd9.pdf http://docs-europe.electrocomponents.com/webdocs/12de/090076...) "Broadcom BCM2835 SoC 700 MHz Low Power ARM1176JZFS Applications Processor 512MB SDRAM Boots from Micro SD card, running a version of the Linux operating system" This is basically just a new footprint on the model B. I like the fact that there are more USB ports, I'm not sure I understand the point since there's only a limited amount of power this thing can provide. I guess if you are one of these people who always needs a breadboard / shield for expansion purposes, this will be quite useful. I'm personally disappointed that there's not an update to the SoC. Maybe there will be a model C? One can only hope. My wishlist for a "Model C": >1gb RAM, 2 /4 core SoC, Improved graphics, ~$50-$75 price point
- Zenst 12y ago
  Yes just appears to be clean-up in layout and having all the ports on just two sides instead of four is a bonus for case design and usage. Let alone the cabling aesthetics. Found some more information here: http://www.appdated.de/2014/07/raspberry-pi-b-neues-modell-wenigen-tagen-verfuegbar/ http://www.appdated.de/2014/07/raspberry-pi-b-neues-modell-w... So very much a happening. I too would love a Model C, Ram would be an area and for me USB3 would open up much more as NAS or firewall with the ability to get a respectable 2nd Ethernet over USB3. I almost purchased one the other day for a project and with the changes, beyond power cleanup I would not be that upset had I purchased it then. Setting up weather station and for the needs still more than powerful as is. I do wish tablets had an expansion port so could second-life them with GPIO access, would certainly make for a better product. Though if they did a simple cheap tablet with the Raspberry guts and a GPIO expansion port then that would certainly open it up for learning in more area's and if only one of these cheap tablet makers spent a few extra dollars on adding that expansion they would sell very well indeed and have a longer shelf life.
  - schrodingersCat 12y ago
    Yes! USB 3.0 would be great too. I almost forgot 1 feature: SATA / mSTA. I'm sure there are power reasons for not wanting to do this, but mSATA SSDs have gotten so cheap that I think a dual core RPi with a SSD would make a nice media center / web browsing machine.
    - phaer 12y ago
      You might be interested in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_single-board_computers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_single-board_com... . There's a table including USB 3.0 and SATA support at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_single-board_computers#I.2FO_interfaces_and_ports https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_single-board_com... Personally, I have a Cubieboard2 with SATA but only usb 2, it costs a bit more than $50. http://www.cubietruck.com/collections/frontpage/products/cubieboard-1gb-arm-development-board-cortex-a8-mini-pc http://www.cubietruck.com/collections/frontpage/products/cub...
      - joshu 12y ago
        I also have been working on http://bigboardlist.com/ http://bigboardlist.com/ but haven't updated it in a bit
  - sspiff 12y ago
    USB 3.0 is pretty unlikely in a low-power embedded design though. I don't think I've seen any ARM boards with 3.0, and I don't think many of the low cost, high volume SoC manufacturers have integrated a USB 3.0 controller at this point.
    - rlpb 12y ago
      > I don't think I've seen any ARM boards with 3.0... The Samsung ARM Chromebook (exynos5) has USB3.
- to3m 12y ago
  After the original BBC Micro model B came the BBC Micro model B+, same again, but with a few (somewhat half-baked) tweaks. Presumably why this thing is called the B+ too? The model after that was a more substantial upgrade, both in terms of hardware and software, and went by the name of... The Master. THE MASTER. I have no idea why they chose this branding, but there you go. I hope they go for it again.
  - sdrothrock 12y ago
    > THE MASTER. I have no idea why they chose this branding, but there you go. I hope they go for it again. Could it have been a Doctor Who reference?
- dublinben 12y ago
  You can buy a CubieBoard2 today with 1 GB RAM, dual core ARM-A7, 2x USB, 4 GB NAND, HDMI, Ethernet, SATA for only $59. It might not have the brand appeal of the RaspberryPi, but it's way more capable as a development board. http://store.r0ck.me/products/cubieboard2 http://store.r0ck.me/products/cubieboard2
yzzxy 12y ago
I hope this will include support for drawing more power and supplying more power to usb ports. That's been the most annoying weakness of the Pi for me when building projects with it.
freehunter 12y ago
It's disappointing that they're getting rid of the RCA video jack. That's the only thing that draws me to the RPi. The SOC is slow and outdated, the layout of the board is horrible, but I can get a 4" screen for $10 that works just fine. Unless the cost of HDMI displays comes down, you might as well use a Beaglebone Black.
- wolfgke 12y ago
  According to the data sheet (http://docs-europe.electrocomponents.com/webdocs/12de/0900766b812decd9.pdf http://docs-europe.electrocomponents.com/webdocs/12de/090076...) they haven't got rid of the RCA jack.
- justbrowsing 12y ago
  The composite signal is still available on a fourth pole of the 3.5mm jack. See: http://docs-europe.electrocomponents.com/webdocs/12fa/0900766b812faa1d.pdf http://docs-europe.electrocomponents.com/webdocs/12fa/090076...
hallmark 12y ago
Official announcement: http://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/#introducing-raspberry-pi-model-b-plus http://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/#introducing-raspberry-pi-mo...

38 points by Zenst 12y ago

From this datasheet (http://docs-europe.electrocomponents.com/webdocs/12de/0900766b812decd9.pdf http://docs-europe.electrocomponents.com/webdocs/12de/090076...) "Broadcom BCM2835 SoC 700 MHz Low Power ARM1176JZFS Applications Processor 512MB SDRAM Boots from Micro SD card, running a version of the Linux operating system" This is basically just a new footprint on the model B. I like the fact that there are more USB ports, I'm not sure I understand the point since there's only a limited amount of power this thing can provide. I guess if you are one of these people who always needs a breadboard / shield for expansion purposes, this will be quite useful. I'm personally disappointed that there's not an update to the SoC. Maybe there will be a model C? One can only hope. My wishlist for a "Model C": >1gb RAM, 2 /4 core SoC, Improved graphics, ~$50-$75 price point

Zenst 12y ago
Yes just appears to be clean-up in layout and having all the ports on just two sides instead of four is a bonus for case design and usage. Let alone the cabling aesthetics. Found some more information here: http://www.appdated.de/2014/07/raspberry-pi-b-neues-modell-wenigen-tagen-verfuegbar/ http://www.appdated.de/2014/07/raspberry-pi-b-neues-modell-w... So very much a happening. I too would love a Model C, Ram would be an area and for me USB3 would open up much more as NAS or firewall with the ability to get a respectable 2nd Ethernet over USB3. I almost purchased one the other day for a project and with the changes, beyond power cleanup I would not be that upset had I purchased it then. Setting up weather station and for the needs still more than powerful as is. I do wish tablets had an expansion port so could second-life them with GPIO access, would certainly make for a better product. Though if they did a simple cheap tablet with the Raspberry guts and a GPIO expansion port then that would certainly open it up for learning in more area's and if only one of these cheap tablet makers spent a few extra dollars on adding that expansion they would sell very well indeed and have a longer shelf life.
- schrodingersCat 12y ago
  Yes! USB 3.0 would be great too. I almost forgot 1 feature: SATA / mSTA. I'm sure there are power reasons for not wanting to do this, but mSATA SSDs have gotten so cheap that I think a dual core RPi with a SSD would make a nice media center / web browsing machine.
  - phaer 12y ago
    You might be interested in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_single-board_computers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_single-board_com... . There's a table including USB 3.0 and SATA support at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_single-board_computers#I.2FO_interfaces_and_ports https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_single-board_com... Personally, I have a Cubieboard2 with SATA but only usb 2, it costs a bit more than $50. http://www.cubietruck.com/collections/frontpage/products/cubieboard-1gb-arm-development-board-cortex-a8-mini-pc http://www.cubietruck.com/collections/frontpage/products/cub...
    - joshu 12y ago
      I also have been working on http://bigboardlist.com/ http://bigboardlist.com/ but haven't updated it in a bit
- sspiff 12y ago
  USB 3.0 is pretty unlikely in a low-power embedded design though. I don't think I've seen any ARM boards with 3.0, and I don't think many of the low cost, high volume SoC manufacturers have integrated a USB 3.0 controller at this point.
  - rlpb 12y ago
    > I don't think I've seen any ARM boards with 3.0... The Samsung ARM Chromebook (exynos5) has USB3.
to3m 12y ago
After the original BBC Micro model B came the BBC Micro model B+, same again, but with a few (somewhat half-baked) tweaks. Presumably why this thing is called the B+ too? The model after that was a more substantial upgrade, both in terms of hardware and software, and went by the name of... The Master. THE MASTER. I have no idea why they chose this branding, but there you go. I hope they go for it again.
- sdrothrock 12y ago
  > THE MASTER. I have no idea why they chose this branding, but there you go. I hope they go for it again. Could it have been a Doctor Who reference?
dublinben 12y ago
You can buy a CubieBoard2 today with 1 GB RAM, dual core ARM-A7, 2x USB, 4 GB NAND, HDMI, Ethernet, SATA for only $59. It might not have the brand appeal of the RaspberryPi, but it's way more capable as a development board. http://store.r0ck.me/products/cubieboard2 http://store.r0ck.me/products/cubieboard2

yzzxy 12y ago

I hope this will include support for drawing more power and supplying more power to usb ports. That's been the most annoying weakness of the Pi for me when building projects with it.

freehunter 12y ago

It's disappointing that they're getting rid of the RCA video jack. That's the only thing that draws me to the RPi. The SOC is slow and outdated, the layout of the board is horrible, but I can get a 4" screen for $10 that works just fine. Unless the cost of HDMI displays comes down, you might as well use a Beaglebone Black.

wolfgke 12y ago
According to the data sheet (http://docs-europe.electrocomponents.com/webdocs/12de/0900766b812decd9.pdf http://docs-europe.electrocomponents.com/webdocs/12de/090076...) they haven't got rid of the RCA jack.
justbrowsing 12y ago
The composite signal is still available on a fourth pole of the 3.5mm jack. See: http://docs-europe.electrocomponents.com/webdocs/12fa/0900766b812faa1d.pdf http://docs-europe.electrocomponents.com/webdocs/12fa/090076...

hallmark 12y ago

Official announcement: http://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/#introducing-raspberry-pi-model-b-plus http://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/#introducing-raspberry-pi-mo...