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Why is it that you are surprised to see it marketed as a backup tool? I know about bup, thanks.

thaumaturgy 12y ago
We occasionally get questions from clients about using some file sync tool or another for their backups, and we are very firm with them: file sync is not a backup. It looks like your software protects to some extent against accidental deletions of files, which puts it far ahead of most file sync tools. But, if it's still possible to accidentally delete the contents of a file or otherwise corrupt it, then it's not a backup. We usually end up recommending Acronis TrueImage, which is in the same price range as your software. I'd happily recommend your software instead, since TrueImage is clunky and slow, but without archiving it doesn't count as backup software. (For one real-world example: we had a corporate client get hit by Cryptolocker. It looks like in this case your software would've automatically copied the changed files over to the backup directory; is this the case, or am I missing something?)
- latitude 12y ago
  This reminds me how every time someone posts a salad recipe to /r/cooking the whole discussion inevitably converges to the topic of a salad without a mayo not being a real salad ... just as it is not a salad with the mayo :) Every backup has a set of risks that it mitigates. If the goal is to mitigate human errors, then, yes, versioning/archiving is a must. However if someone just needs to have a daily snapshot of their photos and documents to protect them against fire of theft, then you can certainly call it a file sync, but it still is a backup. To each his own. "Backup" is not an exact term, but rather a range of data protection techniques. All that said, the archiving is coming up.
  - thaumaturgy 12y ago
    > "Backup" is not an exact term, but rather a range of data protection techniques. We're trying to narrow the range of things that people consider a "backup" so that they don't get wildly disappointed in the future. This isn't a matter of taste. > All that said, the archiving is coming up. Fantastic!
    - latitude 12y ago
      > We're trying to narrow the range of things that people consider a "backup" so that they don't get wildly disappointed in the future Aye, I totally hear you.
sciurus 12y ago
What thaumaturgy said. I guess my background as a systems administrator has made me somewhat particular about what people consider to be backups.
JungleGymSam 12y ago
Because file sync is not a backup.

We occasionally get questions from clients about using some file sync tool or another for their backups, and we are very firm with them: file sync is not a backup. It looks like your software protects to some extent against accidental deletions of files, which puts it far ahead of most file sync tools. But, if it's still possible to accidentally delete the contents of a file or otherwise corrupt it, then it's not a backup. We usually end up recommending Acronis TrueImage, which is in the same price range as your software. I'd happily recommend your software instead, since TrueImage is clunky and slow, but without archiving it doesn't count as backup software. (For one real-world example: we had a corporate client get hit by Cryptolocker. It looks like in this case your software would've automatically copied the changed files over to the backup directory; is this the case, or am I missing something?)

latitude 12y ago
This reminds me how every time someone posts a salad recipe to /r/cooking the whole discussion inevitably converges to the topic of a salad without a mayo not being a real salad ... just as it is not a salad with the mayo :) Every backup has a set of risks that it mitigates. If the goal is to mitigate human errors, then, yes, versioning/archiving is a must. However if someone just needs to have a daily snapshot of their photos and documents to protect them against fire of theft, then you can certainly call it a file sync, but it still is a backup. To each his own. "Backup" is not an exact term, but rather a range of data protection techniques. All that said, the archiving is coming up.
- thaumaturgy 12y ago
  > "Backup" is not an exact term, but rather a range of data protection techniques. We're trying to narrow the range of things that people consider a "backup" so that they don't get wildly disappointed in the future. This isn't a matter of taste. > All that said, the archiving is coming up. Fantastic!
  - latitude 12y ago
    > We're trying to narrow the range of things that people consider a "backup" so that they don't get wildly disappointed in the future Aye, I totally hear you.

sciurus 12y ago

What thaumaturgy said. I guess my background as a systems administrator has made me somewhat particular about what people consider to be backups.

JungleGymSam 12y ago

Because file sync is not a backup.