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I hope the author is correct, at least for more advanced forms of payment by plastic. I'm skeptical for the US though. Contactless cards are hard to come by and

I hope the author is correct, at least for more advanced forms of payment by plastic. I'm skeptical for the US though. Contactless cards are hard to come by and several issuers stopped sending them even though the terminals are present. We don't even have widely-available chip-and-PIN (and the few issuers of those cards almost entirely make them default to chip-and-signature).

petercooper 12y ago
Most cards in the UK are contactless now but I can genuinely say I've never seen anyone ever make a contactless transaction. I have tried myself a few times but it failed the first time (operator had no idea why) and the other times it felt more awkward and took more time than doing it the "standard" way. I think we'll get there with it, but socially it's currently about as popular as the self-check out line back in 2001 or the self-ordering kiosk at KFC now (which I always use to jump the line while everyone else is standing around.. seriously, why?)
- nmrm 12y ago
  > seriously, why? Well, you are at KFC. Half the people are putting off the torture for as long as possible, and the other half... well, they're about to willingly eat KFC :-)
- jarek 12y ago
  It's definitely a matter of getting used to it. I moved from Canada where contactless has been standard for a couple of years now and being unable to get a contactless UK card for now I'm super annoyed every time I have to punch in PINs to pay £1 - £3 for something small. The extra 30 seconds just feel totally unnecessary.
  - dasil003 12y ago
    Why not just use cash? Unlike in the US and Canada, the coinage is actually worth enough to buy real things with pocket change.
    - jarek 12y ago
      A few coins are much heavier and thicker than a card, for one. Just tapping a card is faster than picking out coins then waiting for change. And when paying with card I know I won't get any two pence coins back.
- alexhawdon 12y ago
  I'm struggling to recall if I've seen anyone else use them, but I make perhaps one contactless payment a week. The convenience shops and fast-food places in train stations seemed to be the first adopters, and now even my local pub has the facility. Having them in pubs can be quite dangerous -- the payment part of the transaction is so insignificant I'm sure the whole process fires off my 'free beer?!' neurons every time I walk away from the bar.
- techsupporter 12y ago
  And this is another in a list of things that drive me batty about US banking. I had a contactless debit card, issued by Chase Bank, years ago. They renewed it with the non-NFC version and won't give anyone (apart from accounts opened in 4 states, even if you now live in one of those states) an NFC card. Chip and PIN is even worse. My employer gives me a company American Express that has a chip and I got a PIN. Because Amex marks their cards as "signature priority," most places ask for a signature and a lot of unattended kiosks break, even in Europe. I can't even get a chip/PIN debit card. Why does banking here have to suck so bad compared to every other developed banking system?

petercooper 12y ago

Most cards in the UK are contactless now but I can genuinely say I've never seen anyone ever make a contactless transaction. I have tried myself a few times but it failed the first time (operator had no idea why) and the other times it felt more awkward and took more time than doing it the "standard" way. I think we'll get there with it, but socially it's currently about as popular as the self-check out line back in 2001 or the self-ordering kiosk at KFC now (which I always use to jump the line while everyone else is standing around.. seriously, why?)

nmrm 12y ago
> seriously, why? Well, you are at KFC. Half the people are putting off the torture for as long as possible, and the other half... well, they're about to willingly eat KFC :-)
jarek 12y ago
It's definitely a matter of getting used to it. I moved from Canada where contactless has been standard for a couple of years now and being unable to get a contactless UK card for now I'm super annoyed every time I have to punch in PINs to pay £1 - £3 for something small. The extra 30 seconds just feel totally unnecessary.
- dasil003 12y ago
  Why not just use cash? Unlike in the US and Canada, the coinage is actually worth enough to buy real things with pocket change.
  - jarek 12y ago
    A few coins are much heavier and thicker than a card, for one. Just tapping a card is faster than picking out coins then waiting for change. And when paying with card I know I won't get any two pence coins back.
alexhawdon 12y ago
I'm struggling to recall if I've seen anyone else use them, but I make perhaps one contactless payment a week. The convenience shops and fast-food places in train stations seemed to be the first adopters, and now even my local pub has the facility. Having them in pubs can be quite dangerous -- the payment part of the transaction is so insignificant I'm sure the whole process fires off my 'free beer?!' neurons every time I walk away from the bar.
techsupporter 12y ago
And this is another in a list of things that drive me batty about US banking. I had a contactless debit card, issued by Chase Bank, years ago. They renewed it with the non-NFC version and won't give anyone (apart from accounts opened in 4 states, even if you now live in one of those states) an NFC card. Chip and PIN is even worse. My employer gives me a company American Express that has a chip and I got a PIN. Because Amex marks their cards as "signature priority," most places ask for a signature and a lot of unattended kiosks break, even in Europe. I can't even get a chip/PIN debit card. Why does banking here have to suck so bad compared to every other developed banking system?