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Dozens of people are being killed and someone has the nerve to right about one of the country'so PR problem. This doesn't belong on HN. I'm usually open to inte

Dozens of people are being killed and someone has the nerve to right about one of the country'so PR problem. This doesn't belong on HN. I'm usually open to interesting non-hacker relevant articles but this is nothing but propaganda. The remark that Israel is only attacking terrorists is particularly ignorant. It was reported yesterday that out of the 100 dead Palestinians more than half were women and children.

rglovejoy 12y ago
More than a few of those Palestinian children died because their elders chose to put them in harm's way by placing rocket launchers in schools, mosques, and hospitals.
- throwaway901 12y ago
  Please, let's stop this. We do not know this (it may well be propaganda). Furthermore it does still not give anyone the right to bomb Gaza like that. Let's shut down this thread ASAP and not destroy HN.
  - tomerbd 12y ago
    Let focus on technology this js the first rocket anti rocket system that actually works. Brilliant.
    - k-mcgrady 12y ago
      Id love to know more about the tech and that's what should be focussed on here but the link is a useless propaganda piece providing very little info on the tech.
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binarray2000 12y ago
Yes, talking about a PR problem when innocent people are dying is bad. Yes, this article is full of praises for Israel, and that can be understood as propaganda. We can also argue about the term "terrorist": Brits have called (Boston) Tea Party folks "terrorists", for US they are heroes. Yes, it is really, really, really awful when innocent human beings die (children, women, men - it doesn't matter). YET: Hamas isn't going out to the desert and attacking Israel. They deliberately choose densely populated Gaza areas, full of innocent people (yes, many of them may have sympathy for Hamas, but that isn't a crime), taking in account that the counterattack will kill many civilians. While the bombs that have killed all those people have come from Israel, the decision to kill them was made by Hamas.
nothiggs 12y ago
Ironic you bring up the term ignorance: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_casualty_ratio http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_casualty_ratio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fko9F1EAU2g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fko9F1EAU2g Although I don't want to discuss politics on HN (there are plenty of more appropriate places to do that), the interesting issue to me is how (presumably) intelligent people in a certain field can drop all intellectual honesty when it comes to a different field.
rdtsc 12y ago
> ... right about one of the country'so PR problem. This doesn't belong on HN It seems it is up-voted and you seem to have opinions about and want to discuss it. So ... discuss. If it gets too heated the story will quickly flow down or disappear from front age. Using articles like this for propaganda is also a good point. Or how ABC's Diane Sawyer shows images of Palestinians gathering belongings from their destroyed home and puts the "An Israeli family trying to salvage what they can." caption under it. That is also interesting. If she knew they were not Israeli would she have put the picture up anyway? So discussing how propaganda works or doesn't work is fitting and it happens often here.

rglovejoy 12y ago

More than a few of those Palestinian children died because their elders chose to put them in harm's way by placing rocket launchers in schools, mosques, and hospitals.

throwaway901 12y ago
Please, let's stop this. We do not know this (it may well be propaganda). Furthermore it does still not give anyone the right to bomb Gaza like that. Let's shut down this thread ASAP and not destroy HN.
- tomerbd 12y ago
  Let focus on technology this js the first rocket anti rocket system that actually works. Brilliant.
  - k-mcgrady 12y ago
    Id love to know more about the tech and that's what should be focussed on here but the link is a useless propaganda piece providing very little info on the tech.

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binarray2000 12y ago

Yes, talking about a PR problem when innocent people are dying is bad. Yes, this article is full of praises for Israel, and that can be understood as propaganda. We can also argue about the term "terrorist": Brits have called (Boston) Tea Party folks "terrorists", for US they are heroes. Yes, it is really, really, really awful when innocent human beings die (children, women, men - it doesn't matter). YET: Hamas isn't going out to the desert and attacking Israel. They deliberately choose densely populated Gaza areas, full of innocent people (yes, many of them may have sympathy for Hamas, but that isn't a crime), taking in account that the counterattack will kill many civilians. While the bombs that have killed all those people have come from Israel, the decision to kill them was made by Hamas.

nothiggs 12y ago

Ironic you bring up the term ignorance: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_casualty_ratio http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_casualty_ratio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fko9F1EAU2g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fko9F1EAU2g Although I don't want to discuss politics on HN (there are plenty of more appropriate places to do that), the interesting issue to me is how (presumably) intelligent people in a certain field can drop all intellectual honesty when it comes to a different field.

rdtsc 12y ago

> ... right about one of the country'so PR problem. This doesn't belong on HN It seems it is up-voted and you seem to have opinions about and want to discuss it. So ... discuss. If it gets too heated the story will quickly flow down or disappear from front age. Using articles like this for propaganda is also a good point. Or how ABC's Diane Sawyer shows images of Palestinians gathering belongings from their destroyed home and puts the "An Israeli family trying to salvage what they can." caption under it. That is also interesting. If she knew they were not Israeli would she have put the picture up anyway? So discussing how propaganda works or doesn't work is fitting and it happens often here.