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That's ridiculous. By the same logic, that's like trying to ban DVD players because they too can technically play copyrighted material...

by eam 12y ago

ewzimm 12y ago
I could take a screenshot of their screenshot and issue a DMCA takedown request against Windows. Unfortunately, the DMCA is set up to encourage inmediate compliance with unsubstantiated claims for anyone witnout Microsoft-level legal. That doesn't mean it will stick, and I bet Popcorn Time will be back soon.
- PM_Tech 12y ago
  ^^ This is exactly why you are supremely unqualified to understand or debate the issue. Honestly. Your comment was simply stupid. The takedown request was not because the screenshots are copyrighted. That is not the infringement. If you don't understand that then you might want to read a bit more before becoming involved with the grown-ups.
  - angersock 12y ago
    Please don't launch into personal attacks (at least not as crude as these). If you have a point to make, reason through it, post your sources, and debate properly.
    - PM_Tech 12y ago
      It's not crude. The comment was stupid. It was ill informed, blunt and a complete lack of understanding. I don't need a source to prove it. The comment speaks for itself.
      - ewzimm 12y ago
        I'm sorry you saw it that way. I think the DMCA is flawed to the point where crude requests are complied with. I would be happy to respond if you tell me what you disagree with.
        PM_Tech 12y ago
        Let's not. If you are incapable of understanding why your comment is flawed then we are going nowhere. How about you explain which parts of your comment were intelligent?
Veratyr 12y ago
No, by the same logic that's like trying to ban a DVD player that is only capable of playing illegal material. Popcorn Time only sources torrents from illegal sources i.e. does not have significant non-infringing utility. That's where the distinction comes in. If it was similarly limited to only play legal material (or even indiscriminately play material from a source that contains both) this would never have been an issue. I know 'MUH FREEDUMS' is pretty big around here but the fact is that this was rather blatantly illegal and takedown should be expected. Their website explicitly and exclusively shows content that they do not own: http://www.time4popcorn.eu/ http://www.time4popcorn.eu/

That's ridiculous. By the same logic, that's like trying to ban DVD players because they too can technically play copyrighted material...

by eam 12y ago

That's ridiculous. By the same logic, that's like trying to ban DVD players because they too can technically play copyrighted material...

ewzimm 12y ago

I could take a screenshot of their screenshot and issue a DMCA takedown request against Windows. Unfortunately, the DMCA is set up to encourage inmediate compliance with unsubstantiated claims for anyone witnout Microsoft-level legal. That doesn't mean it will stick, and I bet Popcorn Time will be back soon.

PM_Tech 12y ago
^^ This is exactly why you are supremely unqualified to understand or debate the issue. Honestly. Your comment was simply stupid. The takedown request was not because the screenshots are copyrighted. That is not the infringement. If you don't understand that then you might want to read a bit more before becoming involved with the grown-ups.
- angersock 12y ago
  Please don't launch into personal attacks (at least not as crude as these). If you have a point to make, reason through it, post your sources, and debate properly.
  - PM_Tech 12y ago
    It's not crude. The comment was stupid. It was ill informed, blunt and a complete lack of understanding. I don't need a source to prove it. The comment speaks for itself.
    - ewzimm 12y ago
      I'm sorry you saw it that way. I think the DMCA is flawed to the point where crude requests are complied with. I would be happy to respond if you tell me what you disagree with.
      - PM_Tech 12y ago
        Let's not. If you are incapable of understanding why your comment is flawed then we are going nowhere. How about you explain which parts of your comment were intelligent?

Veratyr 12y ago

No, by the same logic that's like trying to ban a DVD player that is only capable of playing illegal material. Popcorn Time only sources torrents from illegal sources i.e. does not have significant non-infringing utility. That's where the distinction comes in. If it was similarly limited to only play legal material (or even indiscriminately play material from a source that contains both) this would never have been an issue. I know 'MUH FREEDUMS' is pretty big around here but the fact is that this was rather blatantly illegal and takedown should be expected. Their website explicitly and exclusively shows content that they do not own: http://www.time4popcorn.eu/ http://www.time4popcorn.eu/