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I don't thing I completely agree with the "role-model" effect you are describing. There are women like. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ada_Lovelace https://en.w

by MPetitt 12y ago

I don't thing I completely agree with the "role-model" effect you are describing. There are women like. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ada_Lovelace https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ada_Lovelace https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grace_Hopper https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grace_Hopper https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limor_Fried https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limor_Fried https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeri_Ellsworth https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeri_Ellsworth And many more. If these women aren't role models enough, how is me investing multitudes more of effort and hiring one or two female engineers at a small startup going to create role-models. I believe in investing in the egg as you call it, by getting women interested in tech at a young age, we can have more candidates to choose from and then not have to jump through all the efforts and hoops this website want's me to do. I see no practical reason to reword all my job postings and hire a female-centric recruiter when I can just hop on angellist for an hour.

acbart 12y ago
The best role-models are not far away or long-dead, they are nearby and immediate. You can see their life and interact with them. Of course, there's also the problem of how many potential role models for women in computing don't really provide the level of support that their students expect (they got there without role models, so why should they hold their students hands?). It's actually difficult to provide citations for the obvious problem of lack-of-role-models, because it's so commonly accepted in the community. I attended Grace Hopper '13 last year, and it's just recognized as a given. When I go through research papers from the past 5-10 years, they start off by just recognizing that its a known problem and then move onto subproblems or their new solution. Unfortunately, I don't really have the time to go mining the work that led to this problem being recognized. Still, I can recommend a book, "Unlocking the Clubhouse" http://mitpress.mit.edu/books/unlocking-clubhouse http://mitpress.mit.edu/books/unlocking-clubhouse which should cover this!

by MPetitt 12y ago

acbart 12y ago

The best role-models are not far away or long-dead, they are nearby and immediate. You can see their life and interact with them. Of course, there's also the problem of how many potential role models for women in computing don't really provide the level of support that their students expect (they got there without role models, so why should they hold their students hands?). It's actually difficult to provide citations for the obvious problem of lack-of-role-models, because it's so commonly accepted in the community. I attended Grace Hopper '13 last year, and it's just recognized as a given. When I go through research papers from the past 5-10 years, they start off by just recognizing that its a known problem and then move onto subproblems or their new solution. Unfortunately, I don't really have the time to go mining the work that led to this problem being recognized. Still, I can recommend a book, "Unlocking the Clubhouse" http://mitpress.mit.edu/books/unlocking-clubhouse http://mitpress.mit.edu/books/unlocking-clubhouse which should cover this!