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Good reporting, though I wish the author wouldn't bury the most important paragraph at the end of a longish piece. This is not a purely local issue. It's a coo

by panarky 12y ago

Good reporting, though I wish the author wouldn't bury the most important paragraph at the end of a longish piece. This is not a purely local issue. It's a coordinated Federal surveillance program masquerading as a local initiative. If federally funded, locally built surveillance systems with little to no oversight can dump their information in a fusion center—think of it as a gun show for surveillance, where agencies freely swap information with little restriction or oversight—that could allow federal agencies such as the FBI and the NSA to do an end-run around any limitations set by Congress or the FISA court.

honksillet 12y ago
How would one go about FOI requesting the location of all these devices?
- mutagen 12y ago
  Federal government will say it's a local issue, talk to SPD. SPD will eventually cite confidentiality agreements with Aruba Networks. When pressed, one of them will provide outdated and/or incomplete data citing jurisdictional boundaries and pleading lack of technical resources to adequately address the request. They've already repeated the drone playbook, public apologies and assertions that only certain capabilities will be used.
  - droopyEyelids 12y ago
    Your answer sounds suspiciously like "give up before trying". I say the correct answer is try, and if you're thwarted, think about it and try some more. If anyone is interested in getting involved, you can call or email the EFF. [1] They've done stuff like this before, and they'll help you get started. If you want someone else to get involved, donate to the EFF. [2] Or even the ACLU [3], because they'll eventually be the ones to defend some victim of the system. [1] https://www.eff.org/about/contact https://www.eff.org/about/contact [2] https://supporters.eff.org/donate https://supporters.eff.org/donate [3] https://www.aclu.org/donate/join-renew-give https://www.aclu.org/donate/join-renew-give
  - bsder 12y ago
    So? Sue them. And make sure to put this on the election agenda. Track a few politicians going to their mistresses to drive the point home.
- pdeuchler 12y ago
  https://www.muckrock.com/ https://www.muckrock.com/ Might be a good start

by panarky 12y ago

honksillet 12y ago

How would one go about FOI requesting the location of all these devices?

mutagen 12y ago
Federal government will say it's a local issue, talk to SPD. SPD will eventually cite confidentiality agreements with Aruba Networks. When pressed, one of them will provide outdated and/or incomplete data citing jurisdictional boundaries and pleading lack of technical resources to adequately address the request. They've already repeated the drone playbook, public apologies and assertions that only certain capabilities will be used.
- droopyEyelids 12y ago
  Your answer sounds suspiciously like "give up before trying". I say the correct answer is try, and if you're thwarted, think about it and try some more. If anyone is interested in getting involved, you can call or email the EFF. [1] They've done stuff like this before, and they'll help you get started. If you want someone else to get involved, donate to the EFF. [2] Or even the ACLU [3], because they'll eventually be the ones to defend some victim of the system. [1] https://www.eff.org/about/contact https://www.eff.org/about/contact [2] https://supporters.eff.org/donate https://supporters.eff.org/donate [3] https://www.aclu.org/donate/join-renew-give https://www.aclu.org/donate/join-renew-give
- bsder 12y ago
  So? Sue them. And make sure to put this on the election agenda. Track a few politicians going to their mistresses to drive the point home.
pdeuchler 12y ago
https://www.muckrock.com/ https://www.muckrock.com/ Might be a good start