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The argument I see most commonly from ISPs (and seemingly re-stated here) is basically, "Why should all of our customers pay for the upgrades we'd have to imple
by diminoten 12y ago
The argument I see most commonly from ISPs (and seemingly re-stated here) is basically, "Why should all of our customers pay for the upgrades we'd have to implement if only the Netflix subscribers would benefit from such upgrades?"
The idea being that, no matter what they do, the cost of it will just be passed along to the consumer. So their solution is to charge Netflix for the upgrades. That way, when Netflix passes those costs on to the consumers, only the ones who actually have Netflix will be paying for the upgrades, as opposed to all Verizon customers.
It makes sense, once you assume Verizon/ISPs and Netflix will just raise their rates to pay off these upgrades/charges.
But again, you have to take the assumption that, regardless, the costs will be passed onto the consumers, for granted. If you think the ISPs will try and eat the costs, then this argument doesn't fly. But they're saying they won't, so... they probably won't.
I'm not trying to pass moral judgement on this (I gave up trying to convince you guys back when every comment I wrote about this was downvoted to hell and back), just saying what the argument the ISPs are giving actually is. It's just not as "left field" as you might think.
- eyeface 12y agoIf Verizon feels that Netflix should pass the costs on to the consumers, how would they go about that? Much like Verizon can't know if a user will be using Netflix, Netflix can't know what networks a specific user will come in from, so they'd have to spread the costs over all subscribers, just like Verizon.
- diminoten 12y agoThat's a fair point, but Verizon is at least claiming apparently that it's Netflix's problem to solve, not theirs. Maybe varied subscription prices based on ISP. Say, a "base" $5/month you pay to Netflix, and then you can subscribe to "performance" plans that cost an extra $1/$2 per month and get you access to the peering agreements for those ISPs. Though I'm pretty sure that'd start riots. But at least your ISPs wouldn't be offering "fast" lanes! Your products would do that!