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There is an ongoing cold & hot war between Hamas and Israel. Israel maintains checkpoints in the West Bank, and continues to build settlements, while leaving Ga

by Kanbab 12y ago

There is an ongoing cold & hot war between Hamas and Israel. Israel maintains checkpoints in the West Bank, and continues to build settlements, while leaving Gaza alone. Hamas undermines West Bank peace by murdering Fatah members, and not negotiating with Israel, claiming they want to ultimately fight all Jews in the world. Furthermore, Mahmoud Abbas in the West Bank joined Hamas in a unity government. I think you are mistaken about who started the current fighting. In short, among the backdrop of relative calm: 3 Israelis youths were murdered, Israel searched the West Bank, and arrested numerous Hamas individuals, among other suspects. An Arab boy was murdered, Israel arrested numerous Israeli suspects. Hamas begins firing rockets from Gaza. Then Israel began responding with air attacks in Gaza.

madaxe_again 12y ago
And who murdered those kids? Not Hamas. And who runs Gaza and the West Bank? Not Hamas. Who sent in troops and violated the ceasefire, killing children, and precipitating this? Sure as hell not Hamas. Netanyahu. Finally - the "unity government" you speak ill of was welcomed everywhere as a positive step towards peace - except for in Israel where it's being used as an excuse for war.
- laichzeit0 12y ago
  And who began firing rockets from Gaza? "Not Hamas"? I'm not trying to establish order of events here. Just baiting you to acknowledge a factual detail first.
  - madaxe_again 12y ago
    Not Hamas. Hamas have been acting as Israel's extended defence force in the area for the past 18 months, since the cease-fire - actively preventing jihadist groups from carrying out strikes. Israel's heavy-handed response to the "missing" (when in fact they already knew they were dead) children is what precipitated this. Hamas started rocket salvos, and acknowledged such, when the airstrikes began in earnest.
    - thescrewdriver 12y ago
      Isn't it amazing how they can enforce a ceasefire when they want to, and turn a blind eye to other groups when it suits them...
- Kanbab 12y ago
  Who runs Gaza? If not Hamas, then who?
- thescrewdriver 12y ago
  > And who murdered those kids? Not Hamas. Hamas themselves neither confirms nor denies it [1], so how can you claim that? [1] http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/10/us-palestinians-israel-idUSKBN0FC0JP20140710 http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/10/us-palestinians-is...

by Kanbab 12y ago

madaxe_again 12y ago

And who murdered those kids? Not Hamas. And who runs Gaza and the West Bank? Not Hamas. Who sent in troops and violated the ceasefire, killing children, and precipitating this? Sure as hell not Hamas. Netanyahu. Finally - the "unity government" you speak ill of was welcomed everywhere as a positive step towards peace - except for in Israel where it's being used as an excuse for war.

laichzeit0 12y ago
And who began firing rockets from Gaza? "Not Hamas"? I'm not trying to establish order of events here. Just baiting you to acknowledge a factual detail first.
- madaxe_again 12y ago
  Not Hamas. Hamas have been acting as Israel's extended defence force in the area for the past 18 months, since the cease-fire - actively preventing jihadist groups from carrying out strikes. Israel's heavy-handed response to the "missing" (when in fact they already knew they were dead) children is what precipitated this. Hamas started rocket salvos, and acknowledged such, when the airstrikes began in earnest.
  - thescrewdriver 12y ago
    Isn't it amazing how they can enforce a ceasefire when they want to, and turn a blind eye to other groups when it suits them...
Kanbab 12y ago
Who runs Gaza? If not Hamas, then who?
thescrewdriver 12y ago
> And who murdered those kids? Not Hamas. Hamas themselves neither confirms nor denies it [1], so how can you claim that? [1] http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/10/us-palestinians-israel-idUSKBN0FC0JP20140710 http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/10/us-palestinians-is...