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Yes, the Eastern District of Texas is internationally renowned for spurious decisions in patent cases, in particular. This is not one of those, and it's in Den

Yes, the Eastern District of Texas is internationally renowned for spurious decisions in patent cases, in particular. This is not one of those, and it's in Denton County, Texas - I don't know about their reputation otherwise or the geography. In any case, it is simply wrong: the Tor Project most definitely do not host or provide domain name services to this site (and hidden service descriptors are not domain names but keys - the Tor software project has no control over them). Cloudflare are the forward proxies to the hosting and would have knowledge of the real host (Tor do not), and their domain name registrar are OnlineNic.com, as 10 seconds of robtex.com lookup can easily show you! 10 seconds this lawyer didn't take. I can appreciate the plaintiff is upset - rightfully so, in my opinion - if nude pictures of her have been uploaded to Pinkmeth.com without her permission. But the Tor project are software developers and don't have anything to do with the hosting of that site. Her lawyer has, to be polite, made a grave error of judgment.

runamok 12y ago
Right. > TOR also provides services that permit users, such as Pinkmeth, to "publish web sites and other services without needing to reveal the location of the site." Perhaps they mean a user can use TOR to publish to Pinkmeth.com anonymously?
WildUtah 12y ago
Her lawyer has, to be polite, made a grave error of judgment. Meh. The Tor people will spend a couple thousand dollars hiring a Texas lawyer to explain it to them and then they can file again. The plaintiff hasn't lost anything and will gain some free technical advice at the expense of a third party. Maybe the Tor people will even pay them a little cash to make them go away. Really, the lawyer has gotten her a good start.
- zanny 12y ago
  And this is why the modern legal system in most countries, but particularly the US, is completely broken. I guess it is because it is a for profit business, now. Since you can have your lawyer randomly sue people, have them spend thousands in lawyers to defend it, and end up settling anyway because the costs of lawyers over an exacerbated court case with an ignorant judge who will rule however the fuck they want can cost way more. And honestly, the only way I can think to solve it is the public subsidy of lawyers in general, except in cases between the state and private individuals. In cases like this one, where its between two private parties, you should get at least free legal council, and even then you should be reimbursed for your time in court because it is wasting everyones time. If the gov't wants to make an overbearing insane "justice" system that allows wanton abuse that creates a legal market as large as most useful commodity markets, they should pay for it. Which means we all pay for it. But at least then people can complain about the insane tax rates to pay for millions of lawyers and judges over literal bullshit.
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- Alupis 12y ago
  IMHO, if you bring suit and it comes up short due to lack of homework and/or understanding, you should be fined (and responsible for the other party's legal fees). I'm tired of people suing the wrong company because their own personal knowledge of a domain is minute, and their fundamental lack of understanding (and sometimes refusal to understand) is the catalyst for the suit.

runamok 12y ago

Right. > TOR also provides services that permit users, such as Pinkmeth, to "publish web sites and other services without needing to reveal the location of the site." Perhaps they mean a user can use TOR to publish to Pinkmeth.com anonymously?

WildUtah 12y ago

Her lawyer has, to be polite, made a grave error of judgment. Meh. The Tor people will spend a couple thousand dollars hiring a Texas lawyer to explain it to them and then they can file again. The plaintiff hasn't lost anything and will gain some free technical advice at the expense of a third party. Maybe the Tor people will even pay them a little cash to make them go away. Really, the lawyer has gotten her a good start.

zanny 12y ago
And this is why the modern legal system in most countries, but particularly the US, is completely broken. I guess it is because it is a for profit business, now. Since you can have your lawyer randomly sue people, have them spend thousands in lawyers to defend it, and end up settling anyway because the costs of lawyers over an exacerbated court case with an ignorant judge who will rule however the fuck they want can cost way more. And honestly, the only way I can think to solve it is the public subsidy of lawyers in general, except in cases between the state and private individuals. In cases like this one, where its between two private parties, you should get at least free legal council, and even then you should be reimbursed for your time in court because it is wasting everyones time. If the gov't wants to make an overbearing insane "justice" system that allows wanton abuse that creates a legal market as large as most useful commodity markets, they should pay for it. Which means we all pay for it. But at least then people can complain about the insane tax rates to pay for millions of lawyers and judges over literal bullshit.
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Alupis 12y ago
IMHO, if you bring suit and it comes up short due to lack of homework and/or understanding, you should be fined (and responsible for the other party's legal fees). I'm tired of people suing the wrong company because their own personal knowledge of a domain is minute, and their fundamental lack of understanding (and sometimes refusal to understand) is the catalyst for the suit.