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In the end, only the popular bands make money anyway. Even if you sign with a major label, if nobody likes your music, they aren't buying your album, or your c

by phsr 17y ago

In the end, only the popular bands make money anyway. Even if you sign with a major label, if nobody likes your music, they aren't buying your album, or your concert tickets. My point was that a band will make more money on tour because the record label takes a huge chunk of the albums sale. The real money is in producing music. :-P

DanielStraight 17y ago
Sure, but how many bands that aren't on (and have never been on) a record label have over a million album sales? Are there any? The simple fact is that without record labels, most artists would be even more broke than they already are. It is possible that another model for music marketing and distribution could be created, but right now, it doesn't exist. Artists need record labels; record labels need record sales; therefore, artists need record sales.
DrJokepu 17y ago
There are two kinds of rights when it comes to paying royalties for music: performing rights and mechanical rights. Performing rights are most commonly owned by the composer or the publisher and mechanical rights are usually owned by the publisher and the record label. Note that the performer doesn't own any of these rights. Unfortunately, performers (or "bands") are not entitled for compensation based on record sales, unless the deal they signed with their publisher or record label specifically states that. And the deal they can struck with these entities largely depends on their posotion in the bargain; more popular bands can obviously get better conditions more easily. One way to become more popular is going on tour, of course.
netsp 17y ago
The music complex (labels, bands, roadies..) is likely to make more money in a world where you can sell a cd (the old world) then in a world where you cannot. How the loss is distributed within this complex is not obvious. My point is that the industry is not dumber then the comment which appears on any music industry thread on the internet. Copyright is important to them. They have a chance of keeping it from disappearing, or at least slowing down the process.
Quarrelsome 17y ago
I disagree, there is a minimum that you are almost guaranteed on a big label as long as your sound is easily accessible (otherwise known as shit). If you get the vast radio networks the labels bought up playing your music people will start to "like" it, through familiarity, it must be subliminal or something. The above must be true because my local radio station 2CR (which we reckon is short for 2 crap records) is still being asked to play "I think i'd better leave right now" by Will Young which is the most hideous song EVER created.

by phsr 17y ago

DanielStraight 17y ago

Sure, but how many bands that aren't on (and have never been on) a record label have over a million album sales? Are there any? The simple fact is that without record labels, most artists would be even more broke than they already are. It is possible that another model for music marketing and distribution could be created, but right now, it doesn't exist. Artists need record labels; record labels need record sales; therefore, artists need record sales.

DrJokepu 17y ago

There are two kinds of rights when it comes to paying royalties for music: performing rights and mechanical rights. Performing rights are most commonly owned by the composer or the publisher and mechanical rights are usually owned by the publisher and the record label. Note that the performer doesn't own any of these rights. Unfortunately, performers (or "bands") are not entitled for compensation based on record sales, unless the deal they signed with their publisher or record label specifically states that. And the deal they can struck with these entities largely depends on their posotion in the bargain; more popular bands can obviously get better conditions more easily. One way to become more popular is going on tour, of course.

netsp 17y ago

The music complex (labels, bands, roadies..) is likely to make more money in a world where you can sell a cd (the old world) then in a world where you cannot. How the loss is distributed within this complex is not obvious. My point is that the industry is not dumber then the comment which appears on any music industry thread on the internet. Copyright is important to them. They have a chance of keeping it from disappearing, or at least slowing down the process.

Quarrelsome 17y ago

I disagree, there is a minimum that you are almost guaranteed on a big label as long as your sound is easily accessible (otherwise known as shit). If you get the vast radio networks the labels bought up playing your music people will start to "like" it, through familiarity, it must be subliminal or something. The above must be true because my local radio station 2CR (which we reckon is short for 2 crap records) is still being asked to play "I think i'd better leave right now" by Will Young which is the most hideous song EVER created.