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Oh sure that's no problem, once netflix pays comcast.

diminoten 12y ago
Which makes sense, given the lopsidedness of traffic in the peering agreement. And it's also what they're doing, currently. So yay for that.
- bitJericho 12y ago
  Why would that make sense when you the customer want to retrieve traffic at an advertised rate from a company you're paying? Surely netflix also pays for traffic at their advertised rate from their ISP. What's the problem? Oh yeah, comcast et al want to be greedy.
  - diminoten 12y ago
    What makes sense about a free peering agreement where only one party benefits?
    - bitJericho 12y ago
      Because you as the customer are already paying your ISP for receiving it.
      - diminoten 12y ago
        Unsurprisingly, you don't know what my contract with Comcast says in it. I do, and I'm not paying my ISP for what you're saying I'm paying my ISP for.
        bitJericho 12y ago
        You're not paying to receive traffic from the internet at a minimum designated speed? Than you aren't buying an internet service good enough to receive streaming data from netflix or other similar services. Your options are to either pay more and get decent internet service or make netflix pay for it (and charge you via their fees). That second option would destroy the internet as we have it today.
        diminoten 12y ago
        From the Internet? Yes. I pay for a certain speed (up to, but whatever), but Netflix->Comcast doesn't go through the Internet. Currently, Netflix uses some of the 8 bucks I give them to ensure my videos are in HD by entering into peering agreements with my ISP. I'd like to not have to pay Comcast too, as they already charge Netflix.
        bitJericho 12y ago
        That's not what's going on. Netflix wants to plug a cable into Comcast's network so that you can receive the data quicker. This would save both Comcast and Netflix money because they don't have to pay another company's bandwidth fees. Regardless, Comcast wishes to charge for Netflix for the priviledge of connecting to their network. They want to charge Netflix access to Comcast's customers (you, the one already paying the big bucks for the service), not to plug a cable into a router. http://blog.netflix.com/2014/04/the-case-against-isp-tolls.html http://blog.netflix.com/2014/04/the-case-against-isp-tolls.h...
        diminoten 12y ago
        How do you know what Comcast wants to charge Netflix for? Did Netflix tell you?
        bitJericho 12y ago
        Yes. http://blog.netflix.com/2014/03/internet-tolls-and-case-for-strong-net.html http://blog.netflix.com/2014/03/internet-tolls-and-case-for-...

Which makes sense, given the lopsidedness of traffic in the peering agreement. And it's also what they're doing, currently. So yay for that.

bitJericho 12y ago
Why would that make sense when you the customer want to retrieve traffic at an advertised rate from a company you're paying? Surely netflix also pays for traffic at their advertised rate from their ISP. What's the problem? Oh yeah, comcast et al want to be greedy.
- diminoten 12y ago
  What makes sense about a free peering agreement where only one party benefits?
  - bitJericho 12y ago
    Because you as the customer are already paying your ISP for receiving it.
    - diminoten 12y ago
      Unsurprisingly, you don't know what my contract with Comcast says in it. I do, and I'm not paying my ISP for what you're saying I'm paying my ISP for.
      - bitJericho 12y ago
        You're not paying to receive traffic from the internet at a minimum designated speed? Than you aren't buying an internet service good enough to receive streaming data from netflix or other similar services. Your options are to either pay more and get decent internet service or make netflix pay for it (and charge you via their fees). That second option would destroy the internet as we have it today.
        diminoten 12y ago
        From the Internet? Yes. I pay for a certain speed (up to, but whatever), but Netflix->Comcast doesn't go through the Internet. Currently, Netflix uses some of the 8 bucks I give them to ensure my videos are in HD by entering into peering agreements with my ISP. I'd like to not have to pay Comcast too, as they already charge Netflix.
        bitJericho 12y ago
        That's not what's going on. Netflix wants to plug a cable into Comcast's network so that you can receive the data quicker. This would save both Comcast and Netflix money because they don't have to pay another company's bandwidth fees. Regardless, Comcast wishes to charge for Netflix for the priviledge of connecting to their network. They want to charge Netflix access to Comcast's customers (you, the one already paying the big bucks for the service), not to plug a cable into a router. http://blog.netflix.com/2014/04/the-case-against-isp-tolls.html http://blog.netflix.com/2014/04/the-case-against-isp-tolls.h...
        diminoten 12y ago
        How do you know what Comcast wants to charge Netflix for? Did Netflix tell you?
        bitJericho 12y ago
        Yes. http://blog.netflix.com/2014/03/internet-tolls-and-case-for-strong-net.html http://blog.netflix.com/2014/03/internet-tolls-and-case-for-...