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My own company. You all know the reasons if you work as a developer at any sort of company, so I won't go into it. I need to not work under other people. "Ot

My own company. You all know the reasons if you work as a developer at any sort of company, so I won't go into it. I need to not work under other people. "Other people" seems to not like this idea.

lifeisstillgood 12y ago
You always work under other people - even when you own the company, you work under your clients. Which means that if you are employeed in a cubicle, you can choose the mindset of an independant company - make your estimates as if money rested on them, meet your commitments as if the next contract depended on it, and be a peer not a servant. Just do it. Then when you have the soft skills to run your own business, run your own business
- codeonfire 12y ago
  I don't intend to work on products for individual clients. Soft skills? The only soft skill a developer needs to know is to not let on that he/she is a developer. That changes the business dynamic. A developer is someone who has something that a client wants. That makes the client and developer adversaries in a way. They have to bargain to each get what they want. An executive of a firm is someone who can get the client what the client wants. That makes them both partners in trying to find a developer to get the thing they now both want. Obviously the developer needs to be seen as a partner and not an adversary. All we then have to do is lie about who will be doing the actual work and maybe hire a few people to make it seem authentic. Developers can never be peers with clients unless they stop being developers or lie about it. It's just not a matter of soft skills.
  - lifeisstillgood 12y ago
    I have read this but still don't get it - are you saying you should be an executive as an employee and then hire some people but do the coding yourself? Why are you lying - and to whom?
    - codeonfire 12y ago
      No, I'm saying that its not possible for non-developer employees to see developers as their peers and that your idea of pretending its your own business is not going to make it happen either.

My own company. You all know the reasons if you work as a developer at any sort of company, so I won't go into it. I need to not work under other people. "Other people" seems to not like this idea.

lifeisstillgood 12y ago

You always work under other people - even when you own the company, you work under your clients. Which means that if you are employeed in a cubicle, you can choose the mindset of an independant company - make your estimates as if money rested on them, meet your commitments as if the next contract depended on it, and be a peer not a servant. Just do it. Then when you have the soft skills to run your own business, run your own business

codeonfire 12y ago
I don't intend to work on products for individual clients. Soft skills? The only soft skill a developer needs to know is to not let on that he/she is a developer. That changes the business dynamic. A developer is someone who has something that a client wants. That makes the client and developer adversaries in a way. They have to bargain to each get what they want. An executive of a firm is someone who can get the client what the client wants. That makes them both partners in trying to find a developer to get the thing they now both want. Obviously the developer needs to be seen as a partner and not an adversary. All we then have to do is lie about who will be doing the actual work and maybe hire a few people to make it seem authentic. Developers can never be peers with clients unless they stop being developers or lie about it. It's just not a matter of soft skills.
- lifeisstillgood 12y ago
  I have read this but still don't get it - are you saying you should be an executive as an employee and then hire some people but do the coding yourself? Why are you lying - and to whom?
  - codeonfire 12y ago
    No, I'm saying that its not possible for non-developer employees to see developers as their peers and that your idea of pretending its your own business is not going to make it happen either.