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I think this is really sad. As someone who went through university when the last wave of centralized unix died off, then the move to decentralized windows, and

by waps 12y ago

I think this is really sad. As someone who went through university when the last wave of centralized unix died off, then the move to decentralized windows, and to decentralized linux (because they couldn't really figure it out mostly). I found that move to decentralization and the availability of compilers and tools and dev. environments and easy ways to get admin privileges, well I credit that with my learning how to code/admin/... and to my succes later in life. These computers, I've heard from a friend, are LOCKED down. As in, try to compile anything against a GUI library is a complete non-starter. Compiling anything under linux without root is almost impossible. Add to that that even the development environments that do exist on linux are ... well sorry to say but let's be honest here ... far inferior for learning to code and to writing simple games than the ones available on windows. Nobody's going to learn how to use computers, how to program and how to improve their situation on these linux machines. And that sucks. But hey, easier on the admins ! (not that it's anywhere near as bad as SAAS though)

datashaman 12y ago
FUD. Try to get anything done in a Windows group policy environment. Same problem, different OS. The serious IDEs are (mostly) available on all platforms, except for Visual Studio (naturally). The machine is installed to be used by a regular user, why would you want it to be developer-friendly? Regular civil servants need to compile applications?
VMG 12y ago
Creating a simple game on a Linux machine: nano awesomewebglgame.html
pjc50 12y ago
Compiling anything under linux without root is almost impossible This is bizarre, and very much not true. If you have a C compiler and sufficient disk space you can build whatever you want in your home directory. It might take a while, but most things that use autoconf will accept `--prefix=/home/user/stuff/` and target that location. Not having a C compiler is rare as it tends to be deep in the requirements chain of other packages. For other languages, I believe Python is mandatory on Redhat and Perl on Debian, if you don't mind old versions.

by waps 12y ago

datashaman 12y ago

FUD. Try to get anything done in a Windows group policy environment. Same problem, different OS. The serious IDEs are (mostly) available on all platforms, except for Visual Studio (naturally). The machine is installed to be used by a regular user, why would you want it to be developer-friendly? Regular civil servants need to compile applications?

VMG 12y ago

Creating a simple game on a Linux machine: nano awesomewebglgame.html

pjc50 12y ago

Compiling anything under linux without root is almost impossible This is bizarre, and very much not true. If you have a C compiler and sufficient disk space you can build whatever you want in your home directory. It might take a while, but most things that use autoconf will accept `--prefix=/home/user/stuff/` and target that location. Not having a C compiler is rare as it tends to be deep in the requirements chain of other packages. For other languages, I believe Python is mandatory on Redhat and Perl on Debian, if you don't mind old versions.