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Honestly, it is going to take a while. The display drivers needs a lot of work (intel seems solid). Also, desktop itself needs to be super stable. Also, the s

Honestly, it is going to take a while. The display drivers needs a lot of work (intel seems solid). Also, desktop itself needs to be super stable. Also, the software (from companies) is treated like a second-class citizen. Chrome is horrible on linux, --disable-gpu --audio-buffer-size what user is going to bother with that? I have to do all these tweaks and workarounds to get things to work. Regular users will not have the patience do this. The year of LOD will only happen when everything is stable and works. Imagine if CentOS, Debian, or Ubuntu on a server were this flaky? Would you use it? This is why people jump ship to Mac.

eru 12y ago
> Chrome is horrible on linux, --disable-gpu --audio-buffer-size what user is going to bother with that? Really? Chrome is a first class citizen on ChromeOS, so I'd expected other linuxes to be well served, too.
- velodrome 12y ago
  Yep. I think it has to do with AMD drivers but I am not sure (I have seen some Nvidia users complain too). It started around Chrome 33. By the way, I don't think ChromeOS is a good example. Can you use Firefox on ChromeOS? I consider ChromeOS like purpose-specific, dedicated hardware (like a router). It is a start though. By the way, Chromebooks use intel gpus - they are pretty solid. LOD has to be better than alternatives by a significant margin in order to attract users.
- tdicola 12y ago
  No WebGL enabled on Linux Chrome in my experience. Kind of annoying when cool visualizations get passed around and you can't see them.
- freehunter 12y ago
  My biggest gripe with Chrome on Linux is you can't change the default behavior of clicking in the address bar. In Firefox I can make it so clicking once selects everything. In Chrome, it drops a cursor and I have to click two or three times to get it to select everything. I understand some people want that behavior, but I don't. The Chrome team's response is that this is the Linux default and Chrome is a native Linux application, so that's how it behaves and it can't be changed. No thanks.
  - level 12y ago
    I'm currently running Chrome 35.0.1916.153 on Ubuntu 14.04 with XFCE and clicking once in the address bar highlights everything all. Don't know why mine is acting different than yours, maybe they changed that since you last tried it.
    - freehunter 12y ago
      I last tried it years ago, so it's possible they changed it since then. When I read that response on their forum, I completely gave up on Chrome and haven't touched it since then. I don't care if "it's not the Linux way" [1], it's my way and who is Google to tell me otherwise? Sorry, I'll end my rant now. [1] https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=26140#c14 https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=26140#c1...
    - velodrome 12y ago
      I am on XFCE using the same version as you and the highlighting works.
  - worklogin 12y ago
    So then they add that to the other 10,000 config options people have requested, and now it's a bloated interface and people will lament "Why can't they keep it simple?" until they strip out all of the pet features and people get mad for them "stupifying" the interface.
    - freehunter 12y ago
      Who says it has to be a config option in the interface? In Firefox it's an option buried in about:config under an obscure name, not user-facing unless someone really wants to find it.
  - velodrome 12y ago
    My peeve for a long time was not having the bookmark bar work (drag the bookmark over a folder and popout the submenu). It worked on Mac and Windows. The just fixed it a few months ago (it's a little clunky though but I will take it)! Yay!
achiang 12y ago
YMMV, of course. I have found the exact opposite experience. https://plus.google.com/u/0/+AlexChiang/posts/JKdr1LTLQD2 https://plus.google.com/u/0/+AlexChiang/posts/JKdr1LTLQD2
- velodrome 12y ago
  #2 resonates with me. I always feel I might break something on a Mac. I only mentioned Mac because many HN users cite their experience on linux as not being a good one.
jebus989 12y ago
Sounds like you last used ubuntu in 2006?

eru 12y ago

> Chrome is horrible on linux, --disable-gpu --audio-buffer-size what user is going to bother with that? Really? Chrome is a first class citizen on ChromeOS, so I'd expected other linuxes to be well served, too.

velodrome 12y ago
Yep. I think it has to do with AMD drivers but I am not sure (I have seen some Nvidia users complain too). It started around Chrome 33. By the way, I don't think ChromeOS is a good example. Can you use Firefox on ChromeOS? I consider ChromeOS like purpose-specific, dedicated hardware (like a router). It is a start though. By the way, Chromebooks use intel gpus - they are pretty solid. LOD has to be better than alternatives by a significant margin in order to attract users.
tdicola 12y ago
No WebGL enabled on Linux Chrome in my experience. Kind of annoying when cool visualizations get passed around and you can't see them.
freehunter 12y ago
My biggest gripe with Chrome on Linux is you can't change the default behavior of clicking in the address bar. In Firefox I can make it so clicking once selects everything. In Chrome, it drops a cursor and I have to click two or three times to get it to select everything. I understand some people want that behavior, but I don't. The Chrome team's response is that this is the Linux default and Chrome is a native Linux application, so that's how it behaves and it can't be changed. No thanks.
- level 12y ago
  I'm currently running Chrome 35.0.1916.153 on Ubuntu 14.04 with XFCE and clicking once in the address bar highlights everything all. Don't know why mine is acting different than yours, maybe they changed that since you last tried it.
  - freehunter 12y ago
    I last tried it years ago, so it's possible they changed it since then. When I read that response on their forum, I completely gave up on Chrome and haven't touched it since then. I don't care if "it's not the Linux way" [1], it's my way and who is Google to tell me otherwise? Sorry, I'll end my rant now. [1] https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=26140#c14 https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=26140#c1...
  - velodrome 12y ago
    I am on XFCE using the same version as you and the highlighting works.
- worklogin 12y ago
  So then they add that to the other 10,000 config options people have requested, and now it's a bloated interface and people will lament "Why can't they keep it simple?" until they strip out all of the pet features and people get mad for them "stupifying" the interface.
  - freehunter 12y ago
    Who says it has to be a config option in the interface? In Firefox it's an option buried in about:config under an obscure name, not user-facing unless someone really wants to find it.
- velodrome 12y ago
  My peeve for a long time was not having the bookmark bar work (drag the bookmark over a folder and popout the submenu). It worked on Mac and Windows. The just fixed it a few months ago (it's a little clunky though but I will take it)! Yay!

achiang 12y ago

YMMV, of course. I have found the exact opposite experience. https://plus.google.com/u/0/+AlexChiang/posts/JKdr1LTLQD2 https://plus.google.com/u/0/+AlexChiang/posts/JKdr1LTLQD2

velodrome 12y ago
#2 resonates with me. I always feel I might break something on a Mac. I only mentioned Mac because many HN users cite their experience on linux as not being a good one.

jebus989 12y ago

Sounds like you last used ubuntu in 2006?