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Mass dump the tile the cage is on, then undump the cage itself is what I've always done. EDIT: and claim them. I haven't played for a while, I'm getting forg

by Natsu 12y ago

Mass dump the tile the cage is on, then undump the cage itself is what I've always done. EDIT: and claim them. I haven't played for a while, I'm getting forgetful. And yes, people can be very creative. Farming various rare creatures (possibly via draining oceans), creating orbital magma cannons that can target any part of the world, conquering hell, creating mechanical calculators that operate on magma where an "overflow" error results in a literal overflow of magma... You don't see that in many games. But there aren't many Turing complete games out there, either. I think Minecraft & Starbound are the only big ones, though I'm not sure if Terraria is or isn't.

pests 12y ago
> creating orbital magma cannons that can target any part of the world Mind giving the gist on how that's done? Isn't Little Big Planet Turing complete?
- Natsu 12y ago
  Create a floor filled with hatches on a very high z level that covers your embark. Link all hatches to levers in a control room of doom somewhere. Pump magma up from the magma sea. Laugh manically when you flood the surface with magma :) (and destroy your FPS...) Not sure about LBP as I haven't played it. I was hoping wikipedia would have a list of Turing-complete games but I can't find one.
  - modo_ 12y ago
    Not a wikipedia page, but LBP is included in this list of accidentally Turing-complete things. http://beza1e1.tuxen.de/articles/accidentally_turing_complete.html http://beza1e1.tuxen.de/articles/accidentally_turing_complet...
    - thret 12y ago
      Magic the Gathering? You made my day. Of course, even rocks can be Turing-complete :) http://xkcd.com/505/ http://xkcd.com/505/
      - kd0amg 12y ago
        Rocks don't have their own rules on how to "execute." Calling the rocks Turing-complete is like pointing to a Turing machine's tape and saying it's the tape that's Turing-complete :-P
        thret 12y ago
        Good point, well made.
vacri 12y ago
Thanks guys - looks like it was the claiming that I'd overlooked. Another fun thing about DF's complexity - so many layers. Dump, forbid/claim, dig, deconstruct, stockpile, zone, burrow, traffic cost...
asgard1024 12y ago
Terraria isn't TC. However, SpaceChem apparently is, but I am not sure that counts.
- SAI_Peregrinus 12y ago
  Actually, Terraria is. Before the update that added multiple colors of wire it was possible to create a very, very slow clocked NAND gate. Now it's possible to create a much faster NAND gate, and from there all the other logic.

by Natsu 12y ago

pests 12y ago

> creating orbital magma cannons that can target any part of the world Mind giving the gist on how that's done? Isn't Little Big Planet Turing complete?

Natsu 12y ago
Create a floor filled with hatches on a very high z level that covers your embark. Link all hatches to levers in a control room of doom somewhere. Pump magma up from the magma sea. Laugh manically when you flood the surface with magma :) (and destroy your FPS...) Not sure about LBP as I haven't played it. I was hoping wikipedia would have a list of Turing-complete games but I can't find one.
- modo_ 12y ago
  Not a wikipedia page, but LBP is included in this list of accidentally Turing-complete things. http://beza1e1.tuxen.de/articles/accidentally_turing_complete.html http://beza1e1.tuxen.de/articles/accidentally_turing_complet...
  - thret 12y ago
    Magic the Gathering? You made my day. Of course, even rocks can be Turing-complete :) http://xkcd.com/505/ http://xkcd.com/505/
    - kd0amg 12y ago
      Rocks don't have their own rules on how to "execute." Calling the rocks Turing-complete is like pointing to a Turing machine's tape and saying it's the tape that's Turing-complete :-P
      - thret 12y ago
        Good point, well made.

vacri 12y ago

Thanks guys - looks like it was the claiming that I'd overlooked. Another fun thing about DF's complexity - so many layers. Dump, forbid/claim, dig, deconstruct, stockpile, zone, burrow, traffic cost...

asgard1024 12y ago

Terraria isn't TC. However, SpaceChem apparently is, but I am not sure that counts.

SAI_Peregrinus 12y ago
Actually, Terraria is. Before the update that added multiple colors of wire it was possible to create a very, very slow clocked NAND gate. Now it's possible to create a much faster NAND gate, and from there all the other logic.