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It's interesting how she mentions the point of taking a recorded performance and keeping it fresh by introducing guests on stage with each set. Reminds me of h

by bobbles 12y ago

It's interesting how she mentions the point of taking a recorded performance and keeping it fresh by introducing guests on stage with each set. Reminds me of how Louis CK under advise from George Carlin (I believe) throws out his material and starts fresh every year. For creative people now, the key will be those who continue to be creative, not those attempting to ride on one creation to the end. The same is happening in the mobile world in app stores now. People expect to get the initial offering, and then see continuous improvement through their free updates for life. How will people manage to get their continuing creativity and effort supported in this market?

danso 12y ago
My favorite live comedy set ever was when Louis CK did a show in Brooklyn, for $10 a seat, and brought his notepad of jokes on stage to read from. It was actually funnier than when I saw his polished show at an actual theater. He really is a fine example of non-zero-sum entrepreneurship, where giving away his material (well, for a very discounted price) benefits both his fans and his professional development. edit: as I recall, the demand for tickets was so great it crashed the bar's website. So Louis added a third show that night to accommodate as many people as possible.
- dobbsbob 12y ago
  He was testing new material on an audience, most of those notepad jokes ended up in the polished routine. Lot's of comedians will workshop their jokes first on a small crowd, though it does leave you wide open to having them "borrowed" by other comedians before you work them into your act.
aikah 12y ago
> The same is happening in the mobile world in app stores now. People expect to get the initial offering, and then see continuous improvement through their free updates for life. What's happening in the mobile world is in-app purchase.Where you are coerced into buying digital goods one way or another. And it's coming to non-gaming apps,trust me.That's the future. As for Taylor Swift,she represents everything that is wrong with the music industry.She is a mass market product,not an artist.
- ronilan 12y ago
  > As for Taylor Swift,she never won real money selling records. She represent everything that is wrong with the music industry.She is a mass market product,not an artist. But one day she'll be living in a big ol' city and all you're ever gonna be is mean.. :)
- vdaniuk 12y ago
  I understand the general discontent with in-app purchases, but stop being sensational. No one is "coerced" into buying digital goods. definition of coerce is "persuade (an unwilling person) to do something by using force or threats." Obviously there are no threats or force applied by the app developers to sell digital goods.
- gr2020 12y ago
  > As for Taylor Swift,she represents everything that is wrong with the music industry.She is a mass market product,not an artist. Not a fair characterization, IMHO. She writes her own songs, and manages her own career. She might have mass market appeal, but I don't see how you can argue she's not a legitimate artist.
  - soganess 12y ago
    Because he believes what she is producing does not meet the threshold requirement of being deemed as art? Just because she is referred to as an artist by an industry attempting to profit from her production does not defacto her as such. Perhaps Taylor is just a shrewd business person who has a natural understanding of what has strong social appeal. What if she openly admit that was her intent? Would you still call her an artist? I would not, and I imagine a great many others wouldn't either. There is a lot to being an artist and this automatic labeling is misleading and perhaps, if you are extra paranoid, nefarious in intent.
Zikes 12y ago
The bit where Louis CK cites George Carlin as his inspiration to start fresh often: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R37zkizucPU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R37zkizucPU
- visakanv 12y ago
  One of the best things I've ever watched. Another very compelling thing to watch in this vein is that HBO special where Carlin, Seinfeld, Chris Rock and Ricky Gervais discuss their craft: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKY6BGcx37k http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKY6BGcx37k

by bobbles 12y ago

danso 12y ago

My favorite live comedy set ever was when Louis CK did a show in Brooklyn, for $10 a seat, and brought his notepad of jokes on stage to read from. It was actually funnier than when I saw his polished show at an actual theater. He really is a fine example of non-zero-sum entrepreneurship, where giving away his material (well, for a very discounted price) benefits both his fans and his professional development. edit: as I recall, the demand for tickets was so great it crashed the bar's website. So Louis added a third show that night to accommodate as many people as possible.

dobbsbob 12y ago
He was testing new material on an audience, most of those notepad jokes ended up in the polished routine. Lot's of comedians will workshop their jokes first on a small crowd, though it does leave you wide open to having them "borrowed" by other comedians before you work them into your act.

aikah 12y ago

> The same is happening in the mobile world in app stores now. People expect to get the initial offering, and then see continuous improvement through their free updates for life. What's happening in the mobile world is in-app purchase.Where you are coerced into buying digital goods one way or another. And it's coming to non-gaming apps,trust me.That's the future. As for Taylor Swift,she represents everything that is wrong with the music industry.She is a mass market product,not an artist.

ronilan 12y ago
> As for Taylor Swift,she never won real money selling records. She represent everything that is wrong with the music industry.She is a mass market product,not an artist. But one day she'll be living in a big ol' city and all you're ever gonna be is mean.. :)
vdaniuk 12y ago
I understand the general discontent with in-app purchases, but stop being sensational. No one is "coerced" into buying digital goods. definition of coerce is "persuade (an unwilling person) to do something by using force or threats." Obviously there are no threats or force applied by the app developers to sell digital goods.
gr2020 12y ago
> As for Taylor Swift,she represents everything that is wrong with the music industry.She is a mass market product,not an artist. Not a fair characterization, IMHO. She writes her own songs, and manages her own career. She might have mass market appeal, but I don't see how you can argue she's not a legitimate artist.
- soganess 12y ago
  Because he believes what she is producing does not meet the threshold requirement of being deemed as art? Just because she is referred to as an artist by an industry attempting to profit from her production does not defacto her as such. Perhaps Taylor is just a shrewd business person who has a natural understanding of what has strong social appeal. What if she openly admit that was her intent? Would you still call her an artist? I would not, and I imagine a great many others wouldn't either. There is a lot to being an artist and this automatic labeling is misleading and perhaps, if you are extra paranoid, nefarious in intent.

Zikes 12y ago

The bit where Louis CK cites George Carlin as his inspiration to start fresh often: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R37zkizucPU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R37zkizucPU

visakanv 12y ago
One of the best things I've ever watched. Another very compelling thing to watch in this vein is that HBO special where Carlin, Seinfeld, Chris Rock and Ricky Gervais discuss their craft: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKY6BGcx37k http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKY6BGcx37k