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Pedestrians don't need to stop at Stop signs either. I think it's safest for all concerned if drivers treat cyclists as pedestrians. Give them right of way all

Pedestrians don't need to stop at Stop signs either. I think it's safest for all concerned if drivers treat cyclists as pedestrians. Give them right of way all the time, don't expect them to act exactly like cars at intersections. If I see a cyclist approaching a 4-way stop that I've stopped at in my car, I wait until their intentions are clear. (Equally importantly, I don't get angry if they blow through the Stop sign.) Counting on the rules being blindly followed is not a winning strategy, as anyone who's read about or experience mixed used roads will know. EDIT: I wouldn't wait excessively long, of course, only if it were a close call, same as with a pedestrian. Common sense. Wow, apparently exercising common sense, being appropriately cautious, and not being angry at cyclists is downvote-worthy. It's all about the rules here I guess, despite many studies pointing out otherwise.

u801e 12y ago
> If I see a cyclist approaching a 4-way stop that I've stopped at in my car, I wait until their intentions are clear. As a cyclist, this is one of the more annoying things I have to deal with. In the example you mention, I would expect you to proceed before I actually reach the intersection. Now, instead of slowing down and then proceeding through the intersection (after you've gone), I have to come to a stop and wait for you to proceed before I can go.
- dllthomas 12y ago
  Signal. Which is not to say that I wholly endorse the comment you were responding to, just that there is a good way you can make your intentions clear.
- afterburner 12y ago
  Again, you're applying rules too strictly. If you (the cyclist) are far enough away that you can stop easily if I (the driver) were to proceed, then I'll proceed. Bottom line, use common sense. If it looks like a close call, I'll wait until it's not, just like I would with a pedestrian; I'm not going to wait from the pedestrian 10 seconds away to cross either. Surely you'd support that kind of common sense caution towards cyclists.

u801e 12y ago

> If I see a cyclist approaching a 4-way stop that I've stopped at in my car, I wait until their intentions are clear. As a cyclist, this is one of the more annoying things I have to deal with. In the example you mention, I would expect you to proceed before I actually reach the intersection. Now, instead of slowing down and then proceeding through the intersection (after you've gone), I have to come to a stop and wait for you to proceed before I can go.

dllthomas 12y ago
Signal. Which is not to say that I wholly endorse the comment you were responding to, just that there is a good way you can make your intentions clear.
afterburner 12y ago
Again, you're applying rules too strictly. If you (the cyclist) are far enough away that you can stop easily if I (the driver) were to proceed, then I'll proceed. Bottom line, use common sense. If it looks like a close call, I'll wait until it's not, just like I would with a pedestrian; I'm not going to wait from the pedestrian 10 seconds away to cross either. Surely you'd support that kind of common sense caution towards cyclists.