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Is google really favoring https sites? This could have unintended consequences like SEO guys suddenly demanding a public IP for their customer sites (many of wh

Is google really favoring https sites? This could have unintended consequences like SEO guys suddenly demanding a public IP for their customer sites (many of which have no need for encryption I imagine) and causing a heavier IPv4 drain than expected. IPv6 just isn't here yet. Must be nice to be an SSL seller right now. I find that if there is a https site, google will just send me there, which is nice, but if they're changing their search algorithm for https that kinda sucks. I want my search terms to match up with the best content, not used as a reward system for implementing SSL everywhere. The article is pretty short on facts. I don't think its favoring anything. It just uses SSL if you have it. On the downside, I have noticed that connecting to sites has been slower than usual lately. The SSL handshake is still slow. Whatever happened to making all of this run faster? Anyone else enjoy the irony of HN linking to the plain-text version of the httpwatch site?

mikecb 12y ago
Why would they need a dedicated ip? Wouldn't they just need SNI?
- sp332 12y ago
  WinXP marketshare is still around 25%. And the default browser on XP doesn't support SNI.
  - dm2 12y ago
    I'm guessing the default browser is IE7 (maybe even IE6?) for Windows XP. The stats that matter are what browser they are using, which is less than 1% for IE7, and possibly near zero depending on your target market. Edit: I see, it's a Windows XP issue rather than an IE issue. http://serverfault.com/questions/389806/redirect-to-ssl-only-if-browser-supports-sni http://serverfault.com/questions/389806/redirect-to-ssl-only...
    - Someone1234 12y ago
      That doesn't matter at all. XP doesn't support SNI, therefore every application which uses XP's SSPI libraries doesn't either. So IE6-8 and Safari on XP all don't support SNI. Chrome on XP does support SNI but that is because they don't use XP's SSPI library for SSL connections (they use Mozilla's library NSS).
    - btgeekboy 12y ago
      IE on XP does not support SNI, regardless of version (6, 7 or 8).
  - richbradshaw 12y ago
    On a mixture of around 100 consumer facing UK sites (think small local businesses) that I have access to, Windows XP made up 3% of sessions in the last month, that's out of over 100k sessions according to Analytics.
dm2 12y ago
I don't think they're changing the search algorithm, just linking to https rather than http if it's available for a particular site. Regarding speeding up HTTPS, I run HTTPS on several sites and there isn't an issue with speed on either end. This is probably what you are looking for though: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPDY http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPDY http://www.chromium.org/spdy/spdy-whitepaper http://www.chromium.org/spdy/spdy-whitepaper http://www.chromium.org/spdy http://www.chromium.org/spdy For Apache: https://code.google.com/p/mod-spdy/ https://code.google.com/p/mod-spdy/

mikecb 12y ago

Why would they need a dedicated ip? Wouldn't they just need SNI?

sp332 12y ago
WinXP marketshare is still around 25%. And the default browser on XP doesn't support SNI.
- dm2 12y ago
  I'm guessing the default browser is IE7 (maybe even IE6?) for Windows XP. The stats that matter are what browser they are using, which is less than 1% for IE7, and possibly near zero depending on your target market. Edit: I see, it's a Windows XP issue rather than an IE issue. http://serverfault.com/questions/389806/redirect-to-ssl-only-if-browser-supports-sni http://serverfault.com/questions/389806/redirect-to-ssl-only...
  - Someone1234 12y ago
    That doesn't matter at all. XP doesn't support SNI, therefore every application which uses XP's SSPI libraries doesn't either. So IE6-8 and Safari on XP all don't support SNI. Chrome on XP does support SNI but that is because they don't use XP's SSPI library for SSL connections (they use Mozilla's library NSS).
  - btgeekboy 12y ago
    IE on XP does not support SNI, regardless of version (6, 7 or 8).
- richbradshaw 12y ago
  On a mixture of around 100 consumer facing UK sites (think small local businesses) that I have access to, Windows XP made up 3% of sessions in the last month, that's out of over 100k sessions according to Analytics.

dm2 12y ago

I don't think they're changing the search algorithm, just linking to https rather than http if it's available for a particular site. Regarding speeding up HTTPS, I run HTTPS on several sites and there isn't an issue with speed on either end. This is probably what you are looking for though: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPDY http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPDY http://www.chromium.org/spdy/spdy-whitepaper http://www.chromium.org/spdy/spdy-whitepaper http://www.chromium.org/spdy http://www.chromium.org/spdy For Apache: https://code.google.com/p/mod-spdy/ https://code.google.com/p/mod-spdy/