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I completely agree, but the answer as to why not is in the question. People simply won't pay for it, especially given Gmail etc. is "good enough" and "free". Pe

I completely agree, but the answer as to why not is in the question. People simply won't pay for it, especially given Gmail etc. is "good enough" and "free". People here would (understandably) probably not trust anything which isn't completely open source. Thus the incentives to do it just aren't there. I've wondered if there is a case that Silicon Valley is guilty of product dumping when giving services away. Euphemistically this is moat building, but the reality looks very similar. This is all why we need an easy to use in the cloud OS that end users can deploy services on. Detach the app development organisation from the hosting again. While that link remains the whole thing will remain a mess.

aragot 12y ago
I would pay for a non-american webmail, provided the UI is merely as good as Gmail, which we're too dumb to create. I would think it's perfectly legitimate if government administrations refused to communicate sensitive personal information on american email addresses.
- walshemj 12y ago
  Why not go back to a client hosted MUA (thunderbird etc) like we used to do before gmail.
  - msh 12y ago
    For my part, because I need continuous access to all my mail/contacts/calendar from several mobile devices (phone+tablet) plus several computers. Before gmail and good mobile devices I used mutt on a shell account to get access constant access but that was only mail + contacts.
    - ownagefool 12y ago
      CalDav, CardDav and IMAP should have these all sync together, no?
      - msh 12y ago
        Yes but no eu company offers it as a inexpensive package.
    - ulfw 12y ago
      I haven't seen a mobile device that doesn't do IMAP/CalDav and/or Exchange. Why do you need to go to a website on a mobile device to read your email?
      - msh 12y ago
        No, but most webmail providers dont offer calDAV + cardDav or exchange on any inexpensive account. The problem is not the device but the providers.
- Omniusaspirer 12y ago
  If you absolutely cannot find what you're looking for then nothing stops you from just firing up your own email server and putting whatever UI you like on it. That's what I did a while ago and I haven't looked back, using Gmail/Yahoo/whatever is a miserable experience in comparison.

aragot 12y ago

I would pay for a non-american webmail, provided the UI is merely as good as Gmail, which we're too dumb to create. I would think it's perfectly legitimate if government administrations refused to communicate sensitive personal information on american email addresses.

walshemj 12y ago
Why not go back to a client hosted MUA (thunderbird etc) like we used to do before gmail.
- msh 12y ago
  For my part, because I need continuous access to all my mail/contacts/calendar from several mobile devices (phone+tablet) plus several computers. Before gmail and good mobile devices I used mutt on a shell account to get access constant access but that was only mail + contacts.
  - ownagefool 12y ago
    CalDav, CardDav and IMAP should have these all sync together, no?
    - msh 12y ago
      Yes but no eu company offers it as a inexpensive package.
  - ulfw 12y ago
    I haven't seen a mobile device that doesn't do IMAP/CalDav and/or Exchange. Why do you need to go to a website on a mobile device to read your email?
    - msh 12y ago
      No, but most webmail providers dont offer calDAV + cardDav or exchange on any inexpensive account. The problem is not the device but the providers.
Omniusaspirer 12y ago
If you absolutely cannot find what you're looking for then nothing stops you from just firing up your own email server and putting whatever UI you like on it. That's what I did a while ago and I haven't looked back, using Gmail/Yahoo/whatever is a miserable experience in comparison.