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I wonder even if he is cleared in Sweden he would still be self imprisoned in the embassy, since he broke UK law by breaching his bail conditions?

dspillett 12y ago
Breaching his bail conditions would be a lesser offence though.
- onion2k 12y ago
  Still serious enough to be arrested, and as soon as he's arrested the US authorities will request extradition which the UK will agree to. Leaving the embassy is certainly going to lead to a life behind bars in America. It doesn't matter what any of the charges are outside of the US.
  - Tyrannosaurs 12y ago
    If that was going to happen then why didn't it happen when he was in court in the UK? Remember, he was in the UK on bail for months before he went near the embassy.
    - hga 12y ago
      A year and a half on bail, from 16 December 2010 to 19 June 2012 per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assange_v_Swedish_Prosecution_Authority https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assange_v_Swedish_Prosecution_.... Also per that Wikipedia article, he fled to the U.K. while under suspicion in Sweden, and "He left Sweden on 27 September 2010. The Swedish authorities have asserted that this is the same day that they notified Assange's lawyer of his imminent arrest."
aylons 12y ago
He is not in the embassy because of the Brits, he is in the embassy because he fears being deported to the US by the Swedens.
- jamespo 12y ago
  Which doesn't make sense, who is more friendly with the US, Britain or Sweden? EDIT: what I'm clarifying is that he's not avoiding Sweden because he thinks they'll deport him to the US, that would have been more likely staying in the UK.
  - rbanffy 12y ago
    He has to step out of the embassy and enter the UK before he can go to Sweden.
    - Fuxy 12y ago
      Isn't a embassy car considered embassy territory?
      - Tyrannosaurs 12y ago
        He's still got to get from the embassy to the car (remember that the embassy is a two bedroom apartment - it's not got underground parking on embassy soil a car could get into) and then from the car to the plane. A bunch of the newspapers here (the UK) looked into this at the time and the short version was there was no realistic, workable way of getting him out without the UK co-operating.
      - KMag 12y ago
        There's no such thing as "embassy territory".[1] Contrary to popular belief, diplomatic missions do not enjoy full extraterritorial status and are not sovereign territory of the represented state. Rather, the premises of diplomatic missions remain under the jurisdiction of the host state while being afforded special privileges (such as immunity from most local laws) by the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations. [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diplomatic_mission#Extraterritoriality https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diplomatic_mission#Extraterrit...
  - frandroid 12y ago
    Either way, he should fear both Sweden and Britain.
sigzero 12y ago
The answer is "yes".

dspillett 12y ago

Breaching his bail conditions would be a lesser offence though.

onion2k 12y ago
Still serious enough to be arrested, and as soon as he's arrested the US authorities will request extradition which the UK will agree to. Leaving the embassy is certainly going to lead to a life behind bars in America. It doesn't matter what any of the charges are outside of the US.
- Tyrannosaurs 12y ago
  If that was going to happen then why didn't it happen when he was in court in the UK? Remember, he was in the UK on bail for months before he went near the embassy.
  - hga 12y ago
    A year and a half on bail, from 16 December 2010 to 19 June 2012 per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assange_v_Swedish_Prosecution_Authority https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assange_v_Swedish_Prosecution_.... Also per that Wikipedia article, he fled to the U.K. while under suspicion in Sweden, and "He left Sweden on 27 September 2010. The Swedish authorities have asserted that this is the same day that they notified Assange's lawyer of his imminent arrest."

aylons 12y ago

He is not in the embassy because of the Brits, he is in the embassy because he fears being deported to the US by the Swedens.

jamespo 12y ago
Which doesn't make sense, who is more friendly with the US, Britain or Sweden? EDIT: what I'm clarifying is that he's not avoiding Sweden because he thinks they'll deport him to the US, that would have been more likely staying in the UK.
- rbanffy 12y ago
  He has to step out of the embassy and enter the UK before he can go to Sweden.
  - Fuxy 12y ago
    Isn't a embassy car considered embassy territory?
    - Tyrannosaurs 12y ago
      He's still got to get from the embassy to the car (remember that the embassy is a two bedroom apartment - it's not got underground parking on embassy soil a car could get into) and then from the car to the plane. A bunch of the newspapers here (the UK) looked into this at the time and the short version was there was no realistic, workable way of getting him out without the UK co-operating.
    - KMag 12y ago
      There's no such thing as "embassy territory".[1] Contrary to popular belief, diplomatic missions do not enjoy full extraterritorial status and are not sovereign territory of the represented state. Rather, the premises of diplomatic missions remain under the jurisdiction of the host state while being afforded special privileges (such as immunity from most local laws) by the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations. [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diplomatic_mission#Extraterritoriality https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diplomatic_mission#Extraterrit...
- frandroid 12y ago
  Either way, he should fear both Sweden and Britain.

sigzero 12y ago

The answer is "yes".