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Upon downloading and running Atom, that was also immediately the thing I missed most. I really love the scratch-space as a feature that Sublime Text gives me, a

Upon downloading and running Atom, that was also immediately the thing I missed most. I really love the scratch-space as a feature that Sublime Text gives me, and I find that I want it in more and more things.

JoelHobson 12y ago
It's not really the same thing, but there's a scratchpad plugin for Atom that might be useful for you. https://atom.io/packages/scratchpad https://atom.io/packages/scratchpad
- kolev 12y ago
  Thanks! Looks like a good plugin for quick notes.
- purephase 12y ago
  Although it advertises persistence, it doesn't look like it works. Everything I put in there is gone upon restart. Interesting idea though. Thanks for pointing it out.
kristofferR 12y ago
Yeah, since this is generally how things work in OS X it makes Atom feel quite ancient to me. It's such a major step in the wrong direction to have to go back to trying to avoid shutting down applications/your computer since it's such a big hassle. If I want save something I'll save it and if I want to close something I'll close it, just keep it "open" for me in the mean time.
- lloeki 12y ago
  Atom persist the workspace per directory. $ atom some/where/to/my/project # open files # close atom $ atom some/where/to/my/project # atom reopens everything I had open for that project Much more sensible for me than the reopen every single project I had open last time.
  - mjs 12y ago
    This is incorrect: unlike Sublime, Atom does not persist unsaved files across restarts. (If step (2) is "create new file", Sublime will preserve it, even if it's not saved.)
    - mrbogle 12y ago
      It does, just not for `untitled` files.
silversmith 12y ago
This just shows how hard it is to please everyone - when I was using ST, disabling the open file persistence was the first thing I did. My usual workflow has me editing / looking up information in many different files, usually just a bit here and there, so at least once every two hours I'd cmd-q the whole mess and `e .` in the project directory and re-open the files as I need them.
- TheZenPsycho 12y ago
  I think it just shows that you do computers wrong. Okay sorry that sounds snarky and unproductive- What I mean is, as a model for how human evolved navigation works- a persistant work space with effectively no need to "save" work is more like reality. If you scribble something on a napkin, and leave it on your desk, the desk doesn't demand you name the napkin when you try to leave the house. At the exact moment you need to leave to go to work, is the exact moment you are least prepared to think of a name and location to find something later. But with a persistent workspace, you can just shut the program instantly, without being spammed by 15 "save, discard, cancel" dialogues. Pressing the power button on the computer, and having the computer just.. turn off… and then turn back on having not forgotten anything by accident or otherwise. You can name and save stuff AT YOUR LEISURE. that. is. the. future. …. of 1996. It's 2014 now and we've just now gotten round to adding it… to one program. a text editor. now we just need to get the rest of the developers in the world on board with this really obviously correct thing to do.
  - kalops 12y ago
    actually, several programs of the OSX stack behaves like this, take the Notes app for example
  - tree_of_item 12y ago
    On the bright side, if memristors work the way I think they do, by 2030 you should be able to shut down any computer and turn it on in to precisely the same state as it was before, even if things are in mid-computation.
    - 12y ago

JoelHobson 12y ago

It's not really the same thing, but there's a scratchpad plugin for Atom that might be useful for you. https://atom.io/packages/scratchpad https://atom.io/packages/scratchpad

kolev 12y ago
Thanks! Looks like a good plugin for quick notes.
purephase 12y ago
Although it advertises persistence, it doesn't look like it works. Everything I put in there is gone upon restart. Interesting idea though. Thanks for pointing it out.

kristofferR 12y ago

Yeah, since this is generally how things work in OS X it makes Atom feel quite ancient to me. It's such a major step in the wrong direction to have to go back to trying to avoid shutting down applications/your computer since it's such a big hassle. If I want save something I'll save it and if I want to close something I'll close it, just keep it "open" for me in the mean time.

lloeki 12y ago
Atom persist the workspace per directory. $ atom some/where/to/my/project # open files # close atom $ atom some/where/to/my/project # atom reopens everything I had open for that project Much more sensible for me than the reopen every single project I had open last time.
- mjs 12y ago
  This is incorrect: unlike Sublime, Atom does not persist unsaved files across restarts. (If step (2) is "create new file", Sublime will preserve it, even if it's not saved.)
  - mrbogle 12y ago
    It does, just not for `untitled` files.

silversmith 12y ago

This just shows how hard it is to please everyone - when I was using ST, disabling the open file persistence was the first thing I did. My usual workflow has me editing / looking up information in many different files, usually just a bit here and there, so at least once every two hours I'd cmd-q the whole mess and `e .` in the project directory and re-open the files as I need them.

TheZenPsycho 12y ago
I think it just shows that you do computers wrong. Okay sorry that sounds snarky and unproductive- What I mean is, as a model for how human evolved navigation works- a persistant work space with effectively no need to "save" work is more like reality. If you scribble something on a napkin, and leave it on your desk, the desk doesn't demand you name the napkin when you try to leave the house. At the exact moment you need to leave to go to work, is the exact moment you are least prepared to think of a name and location to find something later. But with a persistent workspace, you can just shut the program instantly, without being spammed by 15 "save, discard, cancel" dialogues. Pressing the power button on the computer, and having the computer just.. turn off… and then turn back on having not forgotten anything by accident or otherwise. You can name and save stuff AT YOUR LEISURE. that. is. the. future. …. of 1996. It's 2014 now and we've just now gotten round to adding it… to one program. a text editor. now we just need to get the rest of the developers in the world on board with this really obviously correct thing to do.
- kalops 12y ago
  actually, several programs of the OSX stack behaves like this, take the Notes app for example
- tree_of_item 12y ago
  On the bright side, if memristors work the way I think they do, by 2030 you should be able to shut down any computer and turn it on in to precisely the same state as it was before, even if things are in mid-computation.
  - 12y ago