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Exactly, Ruby Isn't An Insurgency

16 points by brett 19y ago

inklesspen 19y ago
Ruby is serious business. Real business and totally bankable. Fact: You cannot do it late at night.
food79 19y ago
This article and Tim's are both a little long-winded. All that is happening here is a discussion about when to hold ruby conferences: on weekdays so the pros can go, or on weekends so hobbyists can go. I am a bit put off by the zealotry of the ruby camp (i.e. The Ruby Way, why_'s midnight genius). Ruby is an interpreter. There are lots of them. When you boil it down, there are lots with similar capabilities, so it comes down to a preference on which to choose. I want a choice between interpreters, and not a choice on which cult to join.
- mechanical_fish 19y ago
  That's "_why". Not "why_". You're never gonna get into the club at that rate. ;)
  - food79 19y ago
    Thanks for the correction
- champion 19y ago
  Yeah, good point, but _why's idiosyncratic writing is wacky fun.
- jamesbritt 19y ago
  Cult?
michaelneale 19y ago
I didn't quite get that. Was he taking the piss out of Tim Bray for being older? No I don't find _why at all helpful, nor amusing. Some folk do though.
- lsb 19y ago
  _why wrote the hpricot html parsers for ruby, as well as tryruby.org, which i showed my dad (who was impressed by it). some people swear in their code, some people write "chunky bacon".
  - michaelneale 19y ago
    > some people swear in their code, some people write "chunky bacon". Now THAT makes the most sense to me ever. Now I get it. Yes we all like to do crazy things. I like bug tracker tickets to have cussing in them (makes for good release notes).
mattmaroon 19y ago
Wow I wish I could downvote this.
- brett 19y ago
  Are you not an admin? PG mentioned early on that the admins included YC founders, so I've sort of assumed that all YC founders are admins though on reflection I don't really have good reason to believe that. Either way "mark this such that brett loses clout once pg pushes the new ranking sw" is still probably far less satisfying than "get this crap off the front page now" would be.
  - mattmaroon 19y ago
    I am not an admin, and even if I was I wouldn't bury it. It's not odious, I just think it's stupid.
bootload 19y ago
Funny in a "fresh eyed junior berating grizzled veterans insistence of rigour" sort of way. Until you read these ~ http://talkety.hacketyhack.net/thread/130/hackety-hack-for-linux http://talkety.hacketyhack.net/thread/130/hackety-hack-for-l...

16 points by brett 19y ago

Ruby is serious business. Real business and totally bankable. Fact: You cannot do it late at night.

This article and Tim's are both a little long-winded. All that is happening here is a discussion about when to hold ruby conferences: on weekdays so the pros can go, or on weekends so hobbyists can go. I am a bit put off by the zealotry of the ruby camp (i.e. The Ruby Way, why_'s midnight genius). Ruby is an interpreter. There are lots of them. When you boil it down, there are lots with similar capabilities, so it comes down to a preference on which to choose. I want a choice between interpreters, and not a choice on which cult to join.

mechanical_fish 19y ago
That's "_why". Not "why_". You're never gonna get into the club at that rate. ;)
- food79 19y ago
  Thanks for the correction
champion 19y ago
Yeah, good point, but _why's idiosyncratic writing is wacky fun.
jamesbritt 19y ago
Cult?

michaelneale 19y ago

I didn't quite get that. Was he taking the piss out of Tim Bray for being older? No I don't find _why at all helpful, nor amusing. Some folk do though.

lsb 19y ago
_why wrote the hpricot html parsers for ruby, as well as tryruby.org, which i showed my dad (who was impressed by it). some people swear in their code, some people write "chunky bacon".
- michaelneale 19y ago
  > some people swear in their code, some people write "chunky bacon". Now THAT makes the most sense to me ever. Now I get it. Yes we all like to do crazy things. I like bug tracker tickets to have cussing in them (makes for good release notes).

mattmaroon 19y ago

Wow I wish I could downvote this.

brett 19y ago
Are you not an admin? PG mentioned early on that the admins included YC founders, so I've sort of assumed that all YC founders are admins though on reflection I don't really have good reason to believe that. Either way "mark this such that brett loses clout once pg pushes the new ranking sw" is still probably far less satisfying than "get this crap off the front page now" would be.
- mattmaroon 19y ago
  I am not an admin, and even if I was I wouldn't bury it. It's not odious, I just think it's stupid.

bootload 19y ago

Funny in a "fresh eyed junior berating grizzled veterans insistence of rigour" sort of way. Until you read these ~ http://talkety.hacketyhack.net/thread/130/hackety-hack-for-linux http://talkety.hacketyhack.net/thread/130/hackety-hack-for-l...