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> On any proposal such as child payments to be accountable or visitation rights enforceability, feminists screams rape. It is hard to take MRAs seriously becau

> On any proposal such as child payments to be accountable or visitation rights enforceability, feminists screams rape. It is hard to take MRAs seriously because they include people who say things like this. This sort of language discredits any actual argument that feminists might actually have by reducing them to contentless, stereotyped feminine shreiks. That's seriously sexist. And at the same time, it mocks women's legitimate fears of being, you know, actually raped.

wiejfjiwioef 12y ago
I am saying that every time some practical problem is brought up, authors gets shamed and discussion gets derailed to irrelevance. So 'screams rape' fits. And men have legitimate fears of being raped as well.
- CocaKoala 12y ago
  Trivializing a discussion by reducing it to "screams rape" mocks the legitimate fear that both men and women have of being raped.
  - wiejfjiwioef 12y ago
    Ok, one more time: - Someone suggest that men could have more visitation rights to his children. - Radfems answer that most men are rapists and they could rape their own children. - Author answers that it is not true, and gets shamed as rape apologist etc. Any more questions? Men teachers or baby-sitters practically does not exist anymore, exactly for this reasons. So "screams rape" fits like a glove.
    - CocaKoala 12y ago
      A few things jump out at me here. 1) You're making some incredible generalizations; this happens "every time"? 2) You started out by claiming "feminists" do that and when pressed, you immediately retreat to "Radfems". So it turns out that even by your own admission, it's not feminists who scream rape every time; it's only the radical ones. 3) Since you're presenting this hypothetical anecdote and using it as evidence, I'll introduce my own and point out that I just checked the faculty list for my old school (5th grade to 12th) and the teacher faculty was maybe 40 percent male. Thinking back to when I was in middle and high school, the current ratio seems about the same as it was back in the early 2000s. So I'm not seeing your claim about the absence of male teachers or babysitters.
    - pdabbadabba 12y ago
      > Radfems answer that most men are rapists and they could rape their own children. I will be very surprised if you can document for us a single time that this has ever happened.

wiejfjiwioef 12y ago

I am saying that every time some practical problem is brought up, authors gets shamed and discussion gets derailed to irrelevance. So 'screams rape' fits. And men have legitimate fears of being raped as well.

CocaKoala 12y ago
Trivializing a discussion by reducing it to "screams rape" mocks the legitimate fear that both men and women have of being raped.
- wiejfjiwioef 12y ago
  Ok, one more time: - Someone suggest that men could have more visitation rights to his children. - Radfems answer that most men are rapists and they could rape their own children. - Author answers that it is not true, and gets shamed as rape apologist etc. Any more questions? Men teachers or baby-sitters practically does not exist anymore, exactly for this reasons. So "screams rape" fits like a glove.
  - CocaKoala 12y ago
    A few things jump out at me here. 1) You're making some incredible generalizations; this happens "every time"? 2) You started out by claiming "feminists" do that and when pressed, you immediately retreat to "Radfems". So it turns out that even by your own admission, it's not feminists who scream rape every time; it's only the radical ones. 3) Since you're presenting this hypothetical anecdote and using it as evidence, I'll introduce my own and point out that I just checked the faculty list for my old school (5th grade to 12th) and the teacher faculty was maybe 40 percent male. Thinking back to when I was in middle and high school, the current ratio seems about the same as it was back in the early 2000s. So I'm not seeing your claim about the absence of male teachers or babysitters.
  - pdabbadabba 12y ago
    > Radfems answer that most men are rapists and they could rape their own children. I will be very surprised if you can document for us a single time that this has ever happened.