> That's a boatload of navel gazing. I had to chuckle, but that's a good way of putting it. Does the design community really need more introspection? My answer

> That's a boatload of navel gazing. I had to chuckle, but that's a good way of putting it. Does the design community really need more introspection? My answer would be a resounding 'No', but maybe Zurb feels differently. Regardless, Tavern is far from what Forrst once was. I'm glad they're at least changing the name, but I fail to understand why they're even associating the two products, aside from the fact that one is launching at the same time the other is being shuttered.