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He-said-she-said, bleh. And these things come to light after a breakup between the two of them. Seriously, who would trust what either of them say? It'll get se

He-said-she-said, bleh. And these things come to light after a breakup between the two of them. Seriously, who would trust what either of them say? It'll get settled in court no doubt, but let's not jump on the bandwagon here. Edit: http://www.buzzfeed.com/sapna/tinder-sued-for-sexual-harassment http://www.buzzfeed.com/sapna/tinder-sued-for-sexual-harassm... - If this is real the guy is a real piece of shit. -This- is the type of guy who should be removed from his company. If the guy in Github was forced to leave this is probably a sure-thing.

kibibu 12y ago
> He-said-she-said, bleh Documented by text messages in the complaint
- sergiotapia 12y ago
  Then that's good, no more hearsay nonsense. Let's hope justice is served. The complaint wasn't linked in the original article.
kaonashi 12y ago
> He-said-she-said, bleh. It sounds like there is documentary evidence, so I'm wondering why you would characterize it like that.
jessaustin 12y ago
TIL it's a bad idea to date your direct report or your boss.
- sergiotapia 12y ago
  Hahaha, I know right. You think this is common sense...yet here we are.
  - deleted 12y ago
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  - instaheat 12y ago
    Thank you! Exactly what I'm saying, this kind of thing happens and people are surprised by it?
  - antimagic 12y ago
    "The heart has reasons that Reason doesn't know"
- danielweber 12y ago
  If this really is a TIL then it needs more reporting. Every professional should be aware of this guideline, and why it's important. EDIT on re-reading this was pretty obvious sarcasm that I missed.
  - jessaustin 12y ago
    Frankly that was somewhat tongue-in-cheek. I'm poking fun at the way we all obsess over details, like who did or said what when or where they did or said it. There isn't a safe or appropriate way for a manager and a direct report to date. I'm sure it works out sometimes, but that's like the time I went unicycling next to a steep cliff while juggling chainsaws. I'm alive, so I must have done something right, but the activity still can't be recommended.
    - BrandonMarc 12y ago
      unicycling next to a steep cliff while juggling chainsaws Why do I get the feeling I'm going to see that in an XKCD strip sometime soon?
jrockway 12y ago
In the other article, there was a link to the actual court filing with exhibits. The cofounder was definitely harassing her, unless the text messages were faked or grossly out of context. You could say that she egged him on and was not exactly the pinnacle of maturity, but harassment is illegal and egging someone on is not.
- renaudg 12y ago
  "Harassment is illegal and egging someone on is not." Isn't that the root issue ?
  - jrockway 12y ago
    The root issue is wanting revenge on someone for breaking up with you.
- xienze 12y ago
  > unless the text messages were faked It's not that far-fetched to believe that. The texts are just screen captures of iMessage, not phone company records.
  - danielweber 12y ago
    It's not impossible, but it would be really really stupid to forge messages that could conceivably be reconstructed in your motion to the court. It's not that no one has ever done something really really stupid but it's not unreasonable to assume, for now, that the messages are not forged.
    - xienze 12y ago
      > It's not impossible, but it would be really really stupid to forge messages that could conceivably be reconstructed in your motion to the court. True, but apparently even with a court order you can only get text message records from so far back. Two years would definitely be stretching it. The reason I'm skeptical here is because the complaint is very much focused on her being recognized (now) as a cofounder, and the sexual harassment stuff is a convenient bludgeon.

kibibu 12y ago

> He-said-she-said, bleh Documented by text messages in the complaint

sergiotapia 12y ago
Then that's good, no more hearsay nonsense. Let's hope justice is served. The complaint wasn't linked in the original article.

kaonashi 12y ago

> He-said-she-said, bleh. It sounds like there is documentary evidence, so I'm wondering why you would characterize it like that.

jessaustin 12y ago

TIL it's a bad idea to date your direct report or your boss.

sergiotapia 12y ago
Hahaha, I know right. You think this is common sense...yet here we are.
- deleted 12y ago
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- instaheat 12y ago
  Thank you! Exactly what I'm saying, this kind of thing happens and people are surprised by it?
- antimagic 12y ago
  "The heart has reasons that Reason doesn't know"
danielweber 12y ago
If this really is a TIL then it needs more reporting. Every professional should be aware of this guideline, and why it's important. EDIT on re-reading this was pretty obvious sarcasm that I missed.
- jessaustin 12y ago
  Frankly that was somewhat tongue-in-cheek. I'm poking fun at the way we all obsess over details, like who did or said what when or where they did or said it. There isn't a safe or appropriate way for a manager and a direct report to date. I'm sure it works out sometimes, but that's like the time I went unicycling next to a steep cliff while juggling chainsaws. I'm alive, so I must have done something right, but the activity still can't be recommended.
  - BrandonMarc 12y ago
    unicycling next to a steep cliff while juggling chainsaws Why do I get the feeling I'm going to see that in an XKCD strip sometime soon?

jrockway 12y ago

In the other article, there was a link to the actual court filing with exhibits. The cofounder was definitely harassing her, unless the text messages were faked or grossly out of context. You could say that she egged him on and was not exactly the pinnacle of maturity, but harassment is illegal and egging someone on is not.

renaudg 12y ago
"Harassment is illegal and egging someone on is not." Isn't that the root issue ?
- jrockway 12y ago
  The root issue is wanting revenge on someone for breaking up with you.
xienze 12y ago
> unless the text messages were faked It's not that far-fetched to believe that. The texts are just screen captures of iMessage, not phone company records.
- danielweber 12y ago
  It's not impossible, but it would be really really stupid to forge messages that could conceivably be reconstructed in your motion to the court. It's not that no one has ever done something really really stupid but it's not unreasonable to assume, for now, that the messages are not forged.
  - xienze 12y ago
    > It's not impossible, but it would be really really stupid to forge messages that could conceivably be reconstructed in your motion to the court. True, but apparently even with a court order you can only get text message records from so far back. Two years would definitely be stretching it. The reason I'm skeptical here is because the complaint is very much focused on her being recognized (now) as a cofounder, and the sexual harassment stuff is a convenient bludgeon.