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>Have you ever lived in an apartment that had rules? Yeah, don't make noise after 11pm. Not some completely arbitrary standards on how stuff must look.

wil421 12y ago
It strikes me as odd that you are so against this topic yet you have never had to deal with these rules/associations.
- Someone1234 12y ago
  I am also against slavery but I've never been a slave. Does that strike you as odd too? You can form an opinion on something with available facts. First hand experience can help one form or inform their opinion, but lack of that doesn't discount anything. If you want to play that card then the majority of people's opinions on most common discussion topics is invalid (e.g. sexism, homophobia, racism, etc). If you're a white male then just don't talk about this stuff because, according to your logic, without first hand experience their opinion is invalid.
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  - wil421 12y ago
    Whoa now, dont compare HOAs to something like slavery. Slavery, sexism, homophobia, gay etc. those are not choices. Living in an HOA is a choice that you or I have to make. If you dont like them dont live in them, why would you want to destroy something you have a choice about. Others like these places, if they didnt there wouldnt be HOAs.
    - 100timesthis 12y ago
      that wasn't a comparison but an analogy and the meaning is quite clear: you can have strong opinion about topics without direct experience.
    - Someone1234 12y ago
      > Whoa now, dont compare HOAs to something like slavery. As you well know, I did not. I was making light of your asserting that you cannot have an opinion on a topic unless you experience it first hand. Slavery, murder, racism, sexism, etc are all areas where this kind of thinking is flawed. > Living in an HOA is a choice that you or I have to make. Nonsense. There are cities where HOAs make up almost all of the "nice" areas. Is it a choice when there is no viable alternative? Also HOAs always expand but then never go away, so in the future your choice will naturally shrink more and more. > Others like these places, if they didnt there wouldnt be HOAs. Maybe others didn't have a choice either?

wil421 12y ago

It strikes me as odd that you are so against this topic yet you have never had to deal with these rules/associations.

Someone1234 12y ago
I am also against slavery but I've never been a slave. Does that strike you as odd too? You can form an opinion on something with available facts. First hand experience can help one form or inform their opinion, but lack of that doesn't discount anything. If you want to play that card then the majority of people's opinions on most common discussion topics is invalid (e.g. sexism, homophobia, racism, etc). If you're a white male then just don't talk about this stuff because, according to your logic, without first hand experience their opinion is invalid.
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- wil421 12y ago
  Whoa now, dont compare HOAs to something like slavery. Slavery, sexism, homophobia, gay etc. those are not choices. Living in an HOA is a choice that you or I have to make. If you dont like them dont live in them, why would you want to destroy something you have a choice about. Others like these places, if they didnt there wouldnt be HOAs.
  - 100timesthis 12y ago
    that wasn't a comparison but an analogy and the meaning is quite clear: you can have strong opinion about topics without direct experience.
  - Someone1234 12y ago
    > Whoa now, dont compare HOAs to something like slavery. As you well know, I did not. I was making light of your asserting that you cannot have an opinion on a topic unless you experience it first hand. Slavery, murder, racism, sexism, etc are all areas where this kind of thinking is flawed. > Living in an HOA is a choice that you or I have to make. Nonsense. There are cities where HOAs make up almost all of the "nice" areas. Is it a choice when there is no viable alternative? Also HOAs always expand but then never go away, so in the future your choice will naturally shrink more and more. > Others like these places, if they didnt there wouldnt be HOAs. Maybe others didn't have a choice either?