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They also deny Cisco's allegations here. http://www.noip.com/blog/2014/02/12/cisco-malware-report/ http://www.noip.com/blog/2014/02/12/cisco-malware-report/ I

They also deny Cisco's allegations here. http://www.noip.com/blog/2014/02/12/cisco-malware-report/ http://www.noip.com/blog/2014/02/12/cisco-malware-report/ It doesn't compute that Cisco is casting blame on them and Microsoft got a court order when all they had to do is send an email. It's kind of strange, they're probably unable to keep up with the abuse reports and validating them or something. There are a lot of dynamic DNS providers so why do the bad guys pick them for the most part for their DNS needs?

Omniusaspirer 12y ago
Presumably because they have a free basic service if you use one of their subdomains. While other companies I'm not aware of might offer the same I've yet to stumble across them.
- shawnz 12y ago
  DynDNS and afraid, which as far as I know are the next two most popular services like this, both have free options. EDIT: Looks like DynDNS recently got rid of their free offering. I wonder if that was related to this?
  - LukeShu 12y ago
    DynDNS dropped their free offering a couple of years ago. If you had created your account before then, you were grandfathered in, and still got 5(?) domains for free; as long as you logged in frequently enough.
    - krallja 12y ago
      Dyn permanently ended its free hostname program in May 2014, with 30-day notice given on April 7. http://dyn.com/blog/why-we-decided-to-stop-offering-free-accounts/ http://dyn.com/blog/why-we-decided-to-stop-offering-free-acc...
  - Fuxy 12y ago
    Also they wouldn't be able to go against afraid since it's fundamentally a different type of service. It offers a DNS service for your domain and the ability to share your domain with others. You can't seize the 100.000 domains being shared and used by bot nets so the only easy target was no-ip. What i find extremely troubling is the domains being handed over to another corporate entity this mechanism is just ripe for abuse.
- stevekemp 12y ago
  http://dhcp.io/ http://dhcp.io/ is (my) new service, launched only recently. Mine doesn't use the same dyn update API, just curl, and you can self-host if you have an Amazon Route53 account.
vacri 12y ago
The press release smells to me like they're playing the innocent, and are savvy to the kind of language their audience likes. "We were very surprised this morning"... "Had Microsoft contacted us, we could and would have taken immediate action."? Surely at some point legal proceedings would have initiated some contact?
- nitrogen 12y ago
  This comment (and its siblings in the thread) suggest that Microsoft got this order without prior notification to NoIP: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7968762 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7968762

Omniusaspirer 12y ago

Presumably because they have a free basic service if you use one of their subdomains. While other companies I'm not aware of might offer the same I've yet to stumble across them.

shawnz 12y ago
DynDNS and afraid, which as far as I know are the next two most popular services like this, both have free options. EDIT: Looks like DynDNS recently got rid of their free offering. I wonder if that was related to this?
- LukeShu 12y ago
  DynDNS dropped their free offering a couple of years ago. If you had created your account before then, you were grandfathered in, and still got 5(?) domains for free; as long as you logged in frequently enough.
  - krallja 12y ago
    Dyn permanently ended its free hostname program in May 2014, with 30-day notice given on April 7. http://dyn.com/blog/why-we-decided-to-stop-offering-free-accounts/ http://dyn.com/blog/why-we-decided-to-stop-offering-free-acc...
- Fuxy 12y ago
  Also they wouldn't be able to go against afraid since it's fundamentally a different type of service. It offers a DNS service for your domain and the ability to share your domain with others. You can't seize the 100.000 domains being shared and used by bot nets so the only easy target was no-ip. What i find extremely troubling is the domains being handed over to another corporate entity this mechanism is just ripe for abuse.
stevekemp 12y ago
http://dhcp.io/ http://dhcp.io/ is (my) new service, launched only recently. Mine doesn't use the same dyn update API, just curl, and you can self-host if you have an Amazon Route53 account.

vacri 12y ago

The press release smells to me like they're playing the innocent, and are savvy to the kind of language their audience likes. "We were very surprised this morning"... "Had Microsoft contacted us, we could and would have taken immediate action."? Surely at some point legal proceedings would have initiated some contact?

nitrogen 12y ago
This comment (and its siblings in the thread) suggest that Microsoft got this order without prior notification to NoIP: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7968762 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7968762