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Honestly, I think a bigger issue is what time we actually go to sleep. I think a lot professionals just don't get to sleep on time for the required 7-8 hours.

by socrates1998 12y ago

Honestly, I think a bigger issue is what time we actually go to sleep. I think a lot professionals just don't get to sleep on time for the required 7-8 hours. If you get up at 6 or 7 in the morning, that means you are deep asleep by 10 or 11 pm. I just don't think a lot of sleep deprived people are doing that. At least that's alway been my experience.

rubicon33 12y ago
This. What's missing from this article, is a discussion about ideal sleep TIMES. Not everyone is meant to sleep from 10-6. Yes, you can fudge your sleep cycle and you can adjust, but only so much. I'm naturally a night owl. With no alarm clock, and no obligations, I will "naturally" fall asleep at 3am, and wake up at 11. In times of my life when I've been able to do this, the 8 hours that I would get then FAR TRUMPED the 8 hours I get now. It's night and day.
- vanderZwan 12y ago
  > I'm naturally a night owl. Many people are unnatural night owls, thanks to blue light sources in the evening - perhaps that applies to you too. Have you tried f.lux? http://getflux.com/ http://getflux.com/
  - makeset 12y ago
    Blue light may be interrupting sleep patterns, but I assume people who call themselves night owls share with me a certain feeling of mental haze during daylight hours, regardless of sleep schedule. I'm also about 5% weaker at lifting maximal weights until late afternoon. For what it's worth, I don't consume caffeine (allergic) and I do use f.lux.
    - pm 12y ago
      I used to call myself a owl too. Often I would be in a haze until late afternoon, then work right up until I went to sleep. Running a business with employees meant I had to shift to mornings (though no longer), but now I'm definitely a lark. My schedule is almost reversed: I work an hour after I get up, and then chill out a couple of hours before bed. Overall, on this schedule I feel much more rested.
    - dageshi 12y ago
      For what it's worth, in my opinion the haze = noise. During the day every damned thing is causing too much noise, even if you block it out with music & headphones it's still noise/distraction. So when you get to the evening and definitely past midnight the ambient noise drops considerably, everything is quiet and there's far less to subconsciously distract you.
      - steanne 12y ago
        it may be sensory overload, variant by person. for me, it's definitely light. i feel fried and cranky within minutes of being in bright sunlight. i use a program similar to flux and, while it's shifted going to sleep a couple of hours earlier, i still have as much difficulty getting to work by 9. maybe i'm still working through decades of deprivation.
  - aqme28 12y ago
    Night-owl here, and that's not the problem. I will keep myself awake until 3AM whether I'm on my computer or not. I'll often read until 3AM because that's when my body seems to want to go to sleep. edit: and I don't drink caffeine after 5.
    - vanderZwan 12y ago
      I'm not denying the existence of night-owls of course, it's just that these situations are hard to judge until you've checked all possible causes.
    - driverdan 12y ago
      5pm is pretty late to stop caffeine. Try stopping it at 2 or 3.
  - donflamenco 12y ago
    Wrong URL, try: https://justgetflux.com/ https://justgetflux.com/
    - dllthomas 12y ago
      For the Linux users among us, there's redshift, which does about the same thing.
      - cheald 12y ago
        And there's Lux for Android, as well.
    - vanderZwan 12y ago
      Shit, you're right and I can't edit it any more.
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- MrZongle2 12y ago
  What's missing from this article, is a discussion about ideal sleep TIMES. Yes, yes, yes! Personally, I feel better rested after 6 hours of sleep if I get to sleep by 10 than 8+ hours of sleep if I don't get to bed until after midnight.

rubicon33 12y ago

This. What's missing from this article, is a discussion about ideal sleep TIMES. Not everyone is meant to sleep from 10-6. Yes, you can fudge your sleep cycle and you can adjust, but only so much. I'm naturally a night owl. With no alarm clock, and no obligations, I will "naturally" fall asleep at 3am, and wake up at 11. In times of my life when I've been able to do this, the 8 hours that I would get then FAR TRUMPED the 8 hours I get now. It's night and day.

vanderZwan 12y ago
> I'm naturally a night owl. Many people are unnatural night owls, thanks to blue light sources in the evening - perhaps that applies to you too. Have you tried f.lux? http://getflux.com/ http://getflux.com/
- makeset 12y ago
  Blue light may be interrupting sleep patterns, but I assume people who call themselves night owls share with me a certain feeling of mental haze during daylight hours, regardless of sleep schedule. I'm also about 5% weaker at lifting maximal weights until late afternoon. For what it's worth, I don't consume caffeine (allergic) and I do use f.lux.
  - pm 12y ago
    I used to call myself a owl too. Often I would be in a haze until late afternoon, then work right up until I went to sleep. Running a business with employees meant I had to shift to mornings (though no longer), but now I'm definitely a lark. My schedule is almost reversed: I work an hour after I get up, and then chill out a couple of hours before bed. Overall, on this schedule I feel much more rested.
  - dageshi 12y ago
    For what it's worth, in my opinion the haze = noise. During the day every damned thing is causing too much noise, even if you block it out with music & headphones it's still noise/distraction. So when you get to the evening and definitely past midnight the ambient noise drops considerably, everything is quiet and there's far less to subconsciously distract you.
    - steanne 12y ago
      it may be sensory overload, variant by person. for me, it's definitely light. i feel fried and cranky within minutes of being in bright sunlight. i use a program similar to flux and, while it's shifted going to sleep a couple of hours earlier, i still have as much difficulty getting to work by 9. maybe i'm still working through decades of deprivation.
- aqme28 12y ago
  Night-owl here, and that's not the problem. I will keep myself awake until 3AM whether I'm on my computer or not. I'll often read until 3AM because that's when my body seems to want to go to sleep. edit: and I don't drink caffeine after 5.
  - vanderZwan 12y ago
    I'm not denying the existence of night-owls of course, it's just that these situations are hard to judge until you've checked all possible causes.
  - driverdan 12y ago
    5pm is pretty late to stop caffeine. Try stopping it at 2 or 3.
- donflamenco 12y ago
  Wrong URL, try: https://justgetflux.com/ https://justgetflux.com/
  - dllthomas 12y ago
    For the Linux users among us, there's redshift, which does about the same thing.
    - cheald 12y ago
      And there's Lux for Android, as well.
  - vanderZwan 12y ago
    Shit, you're right and I can't edit it any more.
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MrZongle2 12y ago
What's missing from this article, is a discussion about ideal sleep TIMES. Yes, yes, yes! Personally, I feel better rested after 6 hours of sleep if I get to sleep by 10 than 8+ hours of sleep if I don't get to bed until after midnight.