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Man, this is some terrible reporting. Here's the bill: http://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/files/serve/?File_id=08de1c1b-446b-478c-84a8-0c3f359632
by cheald 12y ago
Man, this is some terrible reporting.
Here's the bill: http://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/files/serve/?File_id=08de1c1b-446b-478c-84a8-0c3f35963216 http://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/files/serve...
It's actually called the "Cybersecurity Information Sharing Act", not the "Cybersecurity Information Protection Act" (the latter makes googling sufficiently hard). The definition in question states:
> (7) CYBERSECURITY THREAT - The term cybersecurity threat means an action, not protected by the First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States, on or through an information system that may result in an unauthorized effort to adversely impact the security, availability, confidentiality, or integrity of an information system or information that is stored on, processed by, or transiting an information system.
That is quite a far cry from "anything that makes information unavailable or less available".
The First Amendment qualifier itself offers extremely broad protections, since the only qualifying actions would be things which the government could already legally forbid (that is, any communication which would already be protected from censorship or government reprisal under the First Amendment would not qualify as a threat under this bill).
Do journalists even read these bills they're reporting on?
All that said, it's Feinstein, so it's a pretty good bet that she's serving a corporate interest with this bill and has absol-friggin-lutely no idea about the technology she's proposing to regulate.
All that said, can someone make a cogent (hah) argument as to why network engineers should not be able to benevolently police their networks to minimize the degradation of flow of information? That's the side of net neutrality that nobody ever really seems to talk about - we all want to keep business interests from extorting companies through traffic shaping (which is legitimate), but then we all want high-priority routing for all our latency-sensitive traffic, even if our neighbor is torrenting a copy of all the porn on the internet. Net neutrality is a two-edged sword, one which would prevent monopolistic abuses at the expense of exposing the network to failure by tragedy of the commons, and I constantly wonder why we fail to talk about the flipside of the dumb pipes coin.
- SAI_Peregrinus 12y agoNet neutrality isn't about preventing QoS, it's about preventing ISPs from degrading service based on the source of the packet, instead of on the protocol. For example with net neutrality an ISP shouldn't be able to slow down or block Skype while allowing its own VOIP service to work at full speed, but it should be able to give all VOIP packets higher priority than HTTP packets. The recent squabbles about paid peering agreements aren't really a part of what was originally meant by net neutrality, they've been tacked and mostly serve to confuse the issue. They can be a problem, but they're a different problem.
- cheald 12y agoPart of the problem is that there are multiple parties with multiple definitions of what has become a catchphrase to generally mean "I want fast internet". The EFF says net neutrality is "the idea that Internet service providers (ISPs) should treat all data that travels over their networks equally" (https://www.eff.org/issues/net-neutrality https://www.eff.org/issues/net-neutrality). That is, without regard to both source and protocol. They specifically list Comcast throttling the BitTorrent protocol as an example of a violation. The people leading the charge against net neutrality are very squarely opposed to the idea of QoS (malevolent and benevolent) at the ISP level. I have very little issue with saying "thou shalt not different prioritize same-content traffic by originating IP" (provided said sources are actually not engaged in abusive behavior, ie, DDOS attacks or similar), but that's not what most people are talking about when they talk about net neutrality - they're literally talking about dumb pipes which carry and route every packet at the same priority as every other packet, and that's...just not how the internet works. Some packets are more latency-sensitive than others. You aren't really going to care if your BT or Netflix packets have 1k MS latency as long as the throughput is high, but you're really going to have an issue with your VOIP and online gaming packets when there's a 1-second delay on both ends of the pipe.