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FYI, crashes without fully opening on Mac 10.6.8 Snow Leopard.

by Cowicide 12y ago

caryhartline 12y ago
Is that 32 bit or 64 bit?
- unsignedint 12y ago
  Looks like it's just Python script, so it should work either of those...
- Cowicide 12y ago
  64 bit
lectrick 12y ago
I hate to be that guy, but Snow Leopard is 3 full OS versions ago. That is like complaining that something doesn't run on Windows 2000.
- vectorpush 12y ago
  OS version numbers are a pretty arbitrary metric. A more accurate comparison is complaining about software that doesn't run on Windows 7, considering Snow Leopard and Windows 7 were released the same year.
  - akerl_ 12y ago
    Except that Apple has put out 3 major updates since then, and 2 of them are free. Version numbers are a valid metric, even Debian doesn't support 3 versions back. For Apple systems, it's pretty clear that folks more than a version back are signing up for rough waters, which I suspect is a large reason that they dropped the price tag from OS upgrades in the first place.
    - vectorpush 12y ago
      2 of them are free Fair enough, but the comparison of 15 year old Windows 2000 to five year old Snow Leopard is misleading.
      - igl 12y ago
        He made it pretty clear that it's not misleading in terms of compability updates. Apple already dropped support for it. May a comparison with Win XP sooth your fanboy heart? :3
        vectorpush 12y ago
        fanboy heart? Throwing that term around on this forum says more about yourself than anyone else, beyond that, I think most reasonable individuals recognize that desktop operating system technology progresses at relatively similar paces, there is nothing special about Apple's software or hardware that should require it to become obsolete within five years of purchase. Win XP Released 14 years ago. If you can't understand why comparing the usability of operating system software written a decade apart is fallacious, then I have to say that you're a bit ignorant on the topic.
    - adinb 12y ago
      One minor point: anyone with a Core Duo (or earlier) Mac is limited to Snow Leopard. So, 3 releases later or not, there are many people that can't upgrade.
- Cowicide 12y ago
  No worries, it wasn't a complaint as much as a PSA for the fairly large percentage that still uses Snow Leopard. > That is like complaining that something doesn't run on Windows 2000. Ha,I wouldn't go that far. Macs running Snow Leopard still account for around a whopping 25 percent of active Macs. http://blogs.computerworld.com/mac-os-x/23622/why-mac-users-still-use-os-x-snow-leopard http://blogs.computerworld.com/mac-os-x/23622/why-mac-users-... All my Macs are capable of running Mavericks, but one of my MacBook Pros that I use most often still runs Snow Leopard (most of the time) because its version of Exposé is superior to Mission Control and Quick Look (aside from URLS) has vastly superior compatibility with nearly all video codecs I throw at it with Perian running in the background. Apple killed that for newer OS versions and no one has made a workaround yet. I've also found that Apple decided to degrade things like Safari in the Mavericks update as well. For example, Safari lost it's separate window download manager which is I use very often to monitor download speeds, drag and drop files, urls to, etc. that doesn't work at all or isn't practical with Apple's downgrade. And, Safari 5.1.10 and Snow Leopard is very fast. I see very little difference and even some advantages to 10.6.8 in speed here and there to this day compared to Mavs 10.9.3. Apple also got downgraded the Activity Window in the versions of Safari that run on Mavericks as well which I use all the time to easily root out video downloads and snag them for offline usage that many of the video download extensions and apps miss. But the overall main thing I can't stand is the horrible downgrade of Quick Look. I use Quick Look as much as I breathe and for Apple to eliminate its compatibility with so many codecs in one broad swoop makes the advantages of Mavericks not worth it for me. If someone can get Maverick's Quick Look fixed to work with Quick Look extensions and have it be on par with Snow Leopard, I'm more apt to move away from SL. Theres other things I can do in Snow Leopard that others simply cannot do in Mavericks as well, but I covered some of the main points. And, yes, I take extra steps to secure my machine since there are security issues using older versions of apps and OS.

FYI, crashes without fully opening on Mac 10.6.8 Snow Leopard.

caryhartline 12y ago

Is that 32 bit or 64 bit?

unsignedint 12y ago
Looks like it's just Python script, so it should work either of those...
Cowicide 12y ago
64 bit

lectrick 12y ago

I hate to be that guy, but Snow Leopard is 3 full OS versions ago. That is like complaining that something doesn't run on Windows 2000.

vectorpush 12y ago
OS version numbers are a pretty arbitrary metric. A more accurate comparison is complaining about software that doesn't run on Windows 7, considering Snow Leopard and Windows 7 were released the same year.
- akerl_ 12y ago
  Except that Apple has put out 3 major updates since then, and 2 of them are free. Version numbers are a valid metric, even Debian doesn't support 3 versions back. For Apple systems, it's pretty clear that folks more than a version back are signing up for rough waters, which I suspect is a large reason that they dropped the price tag from OS upgrades in the first place.
  - vectorpush 12y ago
    2 of them are free Fair enough, but the comparison of 15 year old Windows 2000 to five year old Snow Leopard is misleading.
    - igl 12y ago
      He made it pretty clear that it's not misleading in terms of compability updates. Apple already dropped support for it. May a comparison with Win XP sooth your fanboy heart? :3
      - vectorpush 12y ago
        fanboy heart? Throwing that term around on this forum says more about yourself than anyone else, beyond that, I think most reasonable individuals recognize that desktop operating system technology progresses at relatively similar paces, there is nothing special about Apple's software or hardware that should require it to become obsolete within five years of purchase. Win XP Released 14 years ago. If you can't understand why comparing the usability of operating system software written a decade apart is fallacious, then I have to say that you're a bit ignorant on the topic.
  - adinb 12y ago
    One minor point: anyone with a Core Duo (or earlier) Mac is limited to Snow Leopard. So, 3 releases later or not, there are many people that can't upgrade.
Cowicide 12y ago
No worries, it wasn't a complaint as much as a PSA for the fairly large percentage that still uses Snow Leopard. > That is like complaining that something doesn't run on Windows 2000. Ha,I wouldn't go that far. Macs running Snow Leopard still account for around a whopping 25 percent of active Macs. http://blogs.computerworld.com/mac-os-x/23622/why-mac-users-still-use-os-x-snow-leopard http://blogs.computerworld.com/mac-os-x/23622/why-mac-users-... All my Macs are capable of running Mavericks, but one of my MacBook Pros that I use most often still runs Snow Leopard (most of the time) because its version of Exposé is superior to Mission Control and Quick Look (aside from URLS) has vastly superior compatibility with nearly all video codecs I throw at it with Perian running in the background. Apple killed that for newer OS versions and no one has made a workaround yet. I've also found that Apple decided to degrade things like Safari in the Mavericks update as well. For example, Safari lost it's separate window download manager which is I use very often to monitor download speeds, drag and drop files, urls to, etc. that doesn't work at all or isn't practical with Apple's downgrade. And, Safari 5.1.10 and Snow Leopard is very fast. I see very little difference and even some advantages to 10.6.8 in speed here and there to this day compared to Mavs 10.9.3. Apple also got downgraded the Activity Window in the versions of Safari that run on Mavericks as well which I use all the time to easily root out video downloads and snag them for offline usage that many of the video download extensions and apps miss. But the overall main thing I can't stand is the horrible downgrade of Quick Look. I use Quick Look as much as I breathe and for Apple to eliminate its compatibility with so many codecs in one broad swoop makes the advantages of Mavericks not worth it for me. If someone can get Maverick's Quick Look fixed to work with Quick Look extensions and have it be on par with Snow Leopard, I'm more apt to move away from SL. Theres other things I can do in Snow Leopard that others simply cannot do in Mavericks as well, but I covered some of the main points. And, yes, I take extra steps to secure my machine since there are security issues using older versions of apps and OS.