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What I find amazing is that someone decided to create this, just because they could. I find that a lot more interesting than anything learned, strangely.

dublinben 12y ago
This is hardly innovative or creative. People on audio forums have been playing around with this technique for years. It is literally a mechanical process.
- chillingeffect 12y ago
  Exactly. OP doesn't have enough to complain about, so he's literally hyperfocusing on nearly imperceptible artifacts and amplifying them... ...in order to weakly raise a vague grumbling about "European" audio engineers. Even though he has no evidence to support that claim. Yes, Fraunhofer is a German company, with headquarters in Munich. But did OP know they employ 23,000 people, with centers in the U.S. as well as Asia? He could have looked that up, but it's so much easier to just throw bullshit out there and hope it resonates with people ashamed of their ancestors. MP3 is not one single technology that all came from Fraunhofer. It is an accumulation of several areas of technology, including types of filters, compression as well as the perceptual stuff. I once traced it through the research literature all the way back to voice compression protocols for the American F15 (16?) in the 1970s! And if you're reading this far, you're probably totally obsessed like me and you might want to check out my associate Jonathan Sterne's book on the history of MP3 from a cultural perspective [0]. [0] https://www.dukeupress.edu/MP3/ https://www.dukeupress.edu/MP3/ Sterne traces the history of perceptual encoding all the back to the early 1910s! It's not just some pop-tech designed in 9 months for a quick buck! Finally, audio engineers is a term that generally means people who work with sound in a studio or recording context, who produce audio for projects with specs. MP3 was designed by scientists who produce work about audio, not audio engineers.

dublinben 12y ago

This is hardly innovative or creative. People on audio forums have been playing around with this technique for years. It is literally a mechanical process.

chillingeffect 12y ago
Exactly. OP doesn't have enough to complain about, so he's literally hyperfocusing on nearly imperceptible artifacts and amplifying them... ...in order to weakly raise a vague grumbling about "European" audio engineers. Even though he has no evidence to support that claim. Yes, Fraunhofer is a German company, with headquarters in Munich. But did OP know they employ 23,000 people, with centers in the U.S. as well as Asia? He could have looked that up, but it's so much easier to just throw bullshit out there and hope it resonates with people ashamed of their ancestors. MP3 is not one single technology that all came from Fraunhofer. It is an accumulation of several areas of technology, including types of filters, compression as well as the perceptual stuff. I once traced it through the research literature all the way back to voice compression protocols for the American F15 (16?) in the 1970s! And if you're reading this far, you're probably totally obsessed like me and you might want to check out my associate Jonathan Sterne's book on the history of MP3 from a cultural perspective [0]. [0] https://www.dukeupress.edu/MP3/ https://www.dukeupress.edu/MP3/ Sterne traces the history of perceptual encoding all the back to the early 1910s! It's not just some pop-tech designed in 9 months for a quick buck! Finally, audio engineers is a term that generally means people who work with sound in a studio or recording context, who produce audio for projects with specs. MP3 was designed by scientists who produce work about audio, not audio engineers.