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There should be a name for this absolute trust in corporations to manage intimate personal details of all sorts on out behalf. It's one of the rare instances w

There should be a name for this absolute trust in corporations to manage intimate personal details of all sorts on out behalf. It's one of the rare instances where people can act as corporations of thousands of people will act in their long term interest and continue to do so indefinitely into the future with no oversight or transparency into their actions. I hope you realize how silly all of this will sound 20 years from now. Edit: This is obviously a parody of the parent comment. It doesn't absolutely reflect my views but I feel it is at least as valid a view as the parent. I do sometimes trust in certain places but I'm often uncomfortable and Google is one of the last companies I want to trust with massive amounts of personal information.

miguelrochefort 12y ago
I don't trust them, nor anyone, to keep any "intimate personal details" (whatever that means) secret. But that's not the point. I don't give them access to information to keep it secure. They shouldn't even need permission to access it. I share information with the world to make it a better place. There's no point in living in the dark. To keep information for yourself is selfish. To expect that others will keep it secret for you is foolish. I'm in favor of complete transparency, and I do not favor individuals or corporations in that matter.
- josephlord 12y ago
  If you are carrying a Google phone and using the Google systems you are giving them access to where you are going, where you have been, who you have met, who you know. All these can be intimate personal details at times. They may provide information about health, sexual partners and activity. They can also reveal journalistic sources and high level company meetings that might give rise to insider trading. Is this all information that should in your view be completely transparent.
  - miguelrochefort 12y ago
    > If you are carrying a Google phone and using the Google systems you are giving them access to where you are going, where you have been, who you have met, who you know. That's great! Profit while it's still free. We'll soon have to pay to get businesses to track us. > All these can be intimate personal details at times. They may provide information about health, sexual partners and activity. They can also reveal journalistic sources and high level company meetings that might give rise to insider trading. All of these things are great too! What do you not see?
    - josephlord 12y ago
      I'm starting to think you are trolling me. In case anyone is taking your position seriously Google don't necessarily share the information about you with you. Secondly in twenty years time when someone has obtained high office Google will still have the records of them visiting prostitutes/gay bars/anti-gay marriage events (whatever is disapproved of in 2035) and Google[0] or a disreputable employee[1] will blackmail them. [0] Google 2014 obviously wouldn't do something so disreputable but give it 20 years of falling marketshare, decreasing quality of management and desperation and who knows where it might be. [1] Likewise todays controls on data may be tight but who knows when they might be dismantled when they get in the way of profit.
      - miguelrochefort 12y ago
        My position is obviously controversial, but I assure you that I truly hold these views. I am not trolling on purpose. Google should definitely share information concerning me with me (or information concerning anyone with everyone). But whether or not they do it shouldn't have any legal implication. They can be evil (as in not transparent) if they wish. Whether or not large corporations that gather data about people (such as Google) are evil or not doesn't concern me. I would hold the same position if Skynet existed. They deserve this right just as much as anyone else.

miguelrochefort 12y ago

I don't trust them, nor anyone, to keep any "intimate personal details" (whatever that means) secret. But that's not the point. I don't give them access to information to keep it secure. They shouldn't even need permission to access it. I share information with the world to make it a better place. There's no point in living in the dark. To keep information for yourself is selfish. To expect that others will keep it secret for you is foolish. I'm in favor of complete transparency, and I do not favor individuals or corporations in that matter.

josephlord 12y ago
If you are carrying a Google phone and using the Google systems you are giving them access to where you are going, where you have been, who you have met, who you know. All these can be intimate personal details at times. They may provide information about health, sexual partners and activity. They can also reveal journalistic sources and high level company meetings that might give rise to insider trading. Is this all information that should in your view be completely transparent.
- miguelrochefort 12y ago
  > If you are carrying a Google phone and using the Google systems you are giving them access to where you are going, where you have been, who you have met, who you know. That's great! Profit while it's still free. We'll soon have to pay to get businesses to track us. > All these can be intimate personal details at times. They may provide information about health, sexual partners and activity. They can also reveal journalistic sources and high level company meetings that might give rise to insider trading. All of these things are great too! What do you not see?
  - josephlord 12y ago
    I'm starting to think you are trolling me. In case anyone is taking your position seriously Google don't necessarily share the information about you with you. Secondly in twenty years time when someone has obtained high office Google will still have the records of them visiting prostitutes/gay bars/anti-gay marriage events (whatever is disapproved of in 2035) and Google[0] or a disreputable employee[1] will blackmail them. [0] Google 2014 obviously wouldn't do something so disreputable but give it 20 years of falling marketshare, decreasing quality of management and desperation and who knows where it might be. [1] Likewise todays controls on data may be tight but who knows when they might be dismantled when they get in the way of profit.
    - miguelrochefort 12y ago
      My position is obviously controversial, but I assure you that I truly hold these views. I am not trolling on purpose. Google should definitely share information concerning me with me (or information concerning anyone with everyone). But whether or not they do it shouldn't have any legal implication. They can be evil (as in not transparent) if they wish. Whether or not large corporations that gather data about people (such as Google) are evil or not doesn't concern me. I would hold the same position if Skynet existed. They deserve this right just as much as anyone else.