> Edit: It also sounds like you are confusing best practices with good code. I've met teams, usually without a formal cs education, who haven't used version con

> Edit: It also sounds like you are confusing best practices with good code. I've met teams, usually without a formal cs education, who haven't used version control and didn't have any unit tests, but still had a well designed codebase. Of course best practices are best practices for a reason.... 1) They both have degrees in comp sci. 2) For very narrow definitions of the word "good" you would be correct. Its technically functional and reliable. However, it regularly has problems with security and/or changes to the common library breaking other people's services.