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I guess when you can't think of a creative title, just use a profanity. I don't want my 9-year-old to be exposed to this kind of language either on the coffee

I guess when you can't think of a creative title, just use a profanity. I don't want my 9-year-old to be exposed to this kind of language either on the coffee table or on the tablet, so I won't be buying the book. Could you put out a PG-rated version for those of us prudish and old-fashioned types?

Crito 12y ago
9 year olds are typically in what, 3rd or 4th grade? Unless you are homeschooling him, he may not be swearing at home but that ship has long since sailed. I'm sure he and his recess buddies could teach you a few new words.
LoganCale 12y ago
The horror! Someone might encounter a word!
- ivan_ah 12y ago
  It says parent under your post, but are you really a parent? Could it be that some people have different points of view on language usage around their kids?
  - JetSpiegel 12y ago
    Parents have different points of view on vaccines too, and I don't see people defending anti-vaccination rhetoric as "different points of view".
  - LoganCale 12y ago
    Having kids doesn't make you right about something.
coffeecodecouch 12y ago
A simple solution is to not leave this book out for your 9-year-old (or realize your 9-year-old really isn't interested). You can't seriously expect them to release a PG alternative.
- alttab 12y ago
  Or expect to be able to shelter your children forever. Source: Not a dad.
  - sp332 12y ago
    Yeah but that's no excuse for giving up without a fight.
- blisterpeanuts 12y ago
  I don't want it in my kindle library where she might see it. The simplest solution is to not acquire the book.
ivan_ah 12y ago
> this kind of language Could you explain a bit about this? Is this an American thing? Two different online advertisement platforms refused to place ads for my book because of the "swear word" in the title. I didn't get it... To me bullshit isn't a swear word at all... except for the unpleasant graphical nature of reference, I would classify it totally in a different category from other swear words. It like a strong version of "crap" ... as in what kind of crap is this?
- parasitius 12y ago
  As a 10 year old boy, I can assure you saying 'bullshit' is a good way to get the shit smacked out of me. Other words that enrage 4th grade teachers and lead to trips to the principal's office include: suck, jeez (because it is pseudo for Jesus, hence almost taking God's name in vain), freaking (because the INTENT is to say fucking but in a wussy way), shoot (because the intent is to say SHIT), gaywad, and 'shiver me timbers'.
- sp332 12y ago
  "Crap" is a weaker word for "shit" because sometimes the word "shit" is too strong. There's a language phenomenon called "code switching" - in different contexts, people will use different words or even switch languages. Remember in Firefly, when people got emotional and started swearing in Chinese? It's like that. http://english.stackexchange.com/a/29271 http://english.stackexchange.com/a/29271
shitgoose 12y ago
Just put this book with the rest of your magazines.
- clarkm 12y ago
  He's just suggesting that the book follow the same guidelines the magazines figured out ages ago: use discreet packaging.
dangliar 12y ago
I'd consider you as someone with class and higher moral standards. Never apologise for that. We need more people like you Brian.
- JetSpiegel 12y ago
  I'm sorry, but that is bullshit. Plain and simple.
- blisterpeanuts 12y ago
  Are you replying to me? Who's Brian?
yongjik 12y ago
Or, you know, when your 9-year-old asks you "Papa(Mama), what is 'bullshit'?" You could explain that it does not literally means cattle manure, is a strong and rude expression sometimes used by people, and it's best to avoid that kind of expression in conversation. Either you kid will learn the word from you (instead of their peers) and gain more knowledge, or they'll just mentally shrug and think "What the _, I'm nine and my dad thinks I don't know bullshit!" Just don't act horrified when you're asked. That will fascinate your kids to no end. Source(?): I have a 8-year-old daughter. (Hopefully she doesn't know what is 'bullshit' yet... but what's the big deal?)
- blisterpeanuts 12y ago
  I'm surprised at all the somewhat naive and pseudo-street-wise responses to what I consider a common sense stance. Of course, I know that my child is being exposed to this kind of language in the schoolyard and in the media. She's heard me accidentally say it in earshot a few times, for Pete's sake. I just consider it a coarse and low class way of expressing oneself. I know she'll eventually be teaching me swear words I've never even heard. I know she'll privately be speaking that way amongst her friends and peers. I know it's in literature and essays that she'll be reading. I just find it distasteful to hear a young child speak that way, and I find it offensive to hear an adult talk that way in front of a young child. It's how I was raised, how nearly everyone in my generation was raised. Look, if one of these kids, who thinks it's cool to put words like "Fuck" and "Bullshit" in the title of a blog or e-book, were to walk into a five star restaurant that requires fancy attire and start dropping the F-bomb, they'd be asked to leave or at a minimum generate some annoyance and disruption. But they wouldn't speak that way in a five star restaurant, nor would they walk into a day care center and speak that way, nor would they curse in front of a neighbor's young children. Why? Because they know better. They know that society, even today, does not condone that kind of language around young children. Many, if not most, parents would disapprove to the point of threatening with violence someone who was clueless enough to curse in front of their children. At a minimum, parents would whisk their children away and shun such a person as a clueless jerk or someone with mental problems. If the authors of the book think they're being cute by using bullshit in the title, they're wrong. They're just resorting to a cheap trick that may trigger the "so what, that's how everyone talks" type of reaction in some, but will trigger the equally legitimate "Get that off my screen!" reaction in others.

Crito 12y ago

9 year olds are typically in what, 3rd or 4th grade? Unless you are homeschooling him, he may not be swearing at home but that ship has long since sailed. I'm sure he and his recess buddies could teach you a few new words.

LoganCale 12y ago

The horror! Someone might encounter a word!

ivan_ah 12y ago
It says parent under your post, but are you really a parent? Could it be that some people have different points of view on language usage around their kids?
- JetSpiegel 12y ago
  Parents have different points of view on vaccines too, and I don't see people defending anti-vaccination rhetoric as "different points of view".
- LoganCale 12y ago
  Having kids doesn't make you right about something.

coffeecodecouch 12y ago

A simple solution is to not leave this book out for your 9-year-old (or realize your 9-year-old really isn't interested). You can't seriously expect them to release a PG alternative.

alttab 12y ago
Or expect to be able to shelter your children forever. Source: Not a dad.
- sp332 12y ago
  Yeah but that's no excuse for giving up without a fight.
blisterpeanuts 12y ago
I don't want it in my kindle library where she might see it. The simplest solution is to not acquire the book.

ivan_ah 12y ago

> this kind of language Could you explain a bit about this? Is this an American thing? Two different online advertisement platforms refused to place ads for my book because of the "swear word" in the title. I didn't get it... To me bullshit isn't a swear word at all... except for the unpleasant graphical nature of reference, I would classify it totally in a different category from other swear words. It like a strong version of "crap" ... as in what kind of crap is this?

parasitius 12y ago
As a 10 year old boy, I can assure you saying 'bullshit' is a good way to get the shit smacked out of me. Other words that enrage 4th grade teachers and lead to trips to the principal's office include: suck, jeez (because it is pseudo for Jesus, hence almost taking God's name in vain), freaking (because the INTENT is to say fucking but in a wussy way), shoot (because the intent is to say SHIT), gaywad, and 'shiver me timbers'.
sp332 12y ago
"Crap" is a weaker word for "shit" because sometimes the word "shit" is too strong. There's a language phenomenon called "code switching" - in different contexts, people will use different words or even switch languages. Remember in Firefly, when people got emotional and started swearing in Chinese? It's like that. http://english.stackexchange.com/a/29271 http://english.stackexchange.com/a/29271

shitgoose 12y ago

Just put this book with the rest of your magazines.

clarkm 12y ago
He's just suggesting that the book follow the same guidelines the magazines figured out ages ago: use discreet packaging.

dangliar 12y ago

I'd consider you as someone with class and higher moral standards. Never apologise for that. We need more people like you Brian.

JetSpiegel 12y ago
I'm sorry, but that is bullshit. Plain and simple.
blisterpeanuts 12y ago
Are you replying to me? Who's Brian?

yongjik 12y ago

Or, you know, when your 9-year-old asks you "Papa(Mama), what is 'bullshit'?" You could explain that it does not literally means cattle manure, is a strong and rude expression sometimes used by people, and it's best to avoid that kind of expression in conversation. Either you kid will learn the word from you (instead of their peers) and gain more knowledge, or they'll just mentally shrug and think "What the _, I'm nine and my dad thinks I don't know bullshit!" Just don't act horrified when you're asked. That will fascinate your kids to no end. Source(?): I have a 8-year-old daughter. (Hopefully she doesn't know what is 'bullshit' yet... but what's the big deal?)

blisterpeanuts 12y ago
I'm surprised at all the somewhat naive and pseudo-street-wise responses to what I consider a common sense stance. Of course, I know that my child is being exposed to this kind of language in the schoolyard and in the media. She's heard me accidentally say it in earshot a few times, for Pete's sake. I just consider it a coarse and low class way of expressing oneself. I know she'll eventually be teaching me swear words I've never even heard. I know she'll privately be speaking that way amongst her friends and peers. I know it's in literature and essays that she'll be reading. I just find it distasteful to hear a young child speak that way, and I find it offensive to hear an adult talk that way in front of a young child. It's how I was raised, how nearly everyone in my generation was raised. Look, if one of these kids, who thinks it's cool to put words like "Fuck" and "Bullshit" in the title of a blog or e-book, were to walk into a five star restaurant that requires fancy attire and start dropping the F-bomb, they'd be asked to leave or at a minimum generate some annoyance and disruption. But they wouldn't speak that way in a five star restaurant, nor would they walk into a day care center and speak that way, nor would they curse in front of a neighbor's young children. Why? Because they know better. They know that society, even today, does not condone that kind of language around young children. Many, if not most, parents would disapprove to the point of threatening with violence someone who was clueless enough to curse in front of their children. At a minimum, parents would whisk their children away and shun such a person as a clueless jerk or someone with mental problems. If the authors of the book think they're being cute by using bullshit in the title, they're wrong. They're just resorting to a cheap trick that may trigger the "so what, that's how everyone talks" type of reaction in some, but will trigger the equally legitimate "Get that off my screen!" reaction in others.