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Psychotic and almost impossible to solve. I tried an audio captcha recently on a whim and I was bewildered. I think any site that uses reCAPTCHA must not have

by lfam 12y ago

Psychotic and almost impossible to solve. I tried an audio captcha recently on a whim and I was bewildered. I think any site that uses reCAPTCHA must not have any regular vision impaired users. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhFLC8ZZQeM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhFLC8ZZQeM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNVcIogEXOo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNVcIogEXOo

krapp 12y ago
Analysis of audio captchas has led to a number of exploits for several captcha systems including recaptcha - which is what all that horrible obfuscation is trying to prevent.
- nsxwolf 12y ago
  It seems to be really good at preventing visually impaired users from using your site. Unless it is true that they really do develop better hearing.
  - lfam 12y ago
    Yes, I'd really like to hear their perspective on this. I listened to a screen reader once and found it very difficult to understand as well.
  - krapp 12y ago
    I don't know how you would solve that problem, other than not having one at all, which of course wouldn't be fair. Having the audio clearly describe the solution would make the captcha useless.
- lfam 12y ago
  Yes, the goals of the reCAPTCHA project are to filter out bots and to digitize the text of the world (not necessarily in that order). The mission statement of the reCAPTCHA project is "Protect your website from spam and abuse while letting real people pass through with ease." I don't think anybody is passing through the audio captchas with ease. Nor are they helping to digitize anything. I think that the use of captcha's as a reverse turing test was always secondary for reCAPTCHA anyways. If someone can write software to solve the visual captcha's, that is a great accomplishment. Once that is accomplished, we will need a new type of reverse turing test. Perhaps we are approaching that point. I'm interested to hear the perspective of users with a visual impairment on the audio captchas.

by lfam 12y ago

krapp 12y ago

Analysis of audio captchas has led to a number of exploits for several captcha systems including recaptcha - which is what all that horrible obfuscation is trying to prevent.

nsxwolf 12y ago
It seems to be really good at preventing visually impaired users from using your site. Unless it is true that they really do develop better hearing.
- lfam 12y ago
  Yes, I'd really like to hear their perspective on this. I listened to a screen reader once and found it very difficult to understand as well.
- krapp 12y ago
  I don't know how you would solve that problem, other than not having one at all, which of course wouldn't be fair. Having the audio clearly describe the solution would make the captcha useless.
lfam 12y ago
Yes, the goals of the reCAPTCHA project are to filter out bots and to digitize the text of the world (not necessarily in that order). The mission statement of the reCAPTCHA project is "Protect your website from spam and abuse while letting real people pass through with ease." I don't think anybody is passing through the audio captchas with ease. Nor are they helping to digitize anything. I think that the use of captcha's as a reverse turing test was always secondary for reCAPTCHA anyways. If someone can write software to solve the visual captcha's, that is a great accomplishment. Once that is accomplished, we will need a new type of reverse turing test. Perhaps we are approaching that point. I'm interested to hear the perspective of users with a visual impairment on the audio captchas.